AAAHHH!!! ranting is good therapy. Let it all out.
wanna
my mum showed me this e-mail her jw friend had sent her last week.. in it the friend explained how wonderful the magazines are and how they provide food at the proper time because they had recently had an article in about ' being prepared for the unexpected'.
the article had told them to have a bag packed with emergency stuff in case they ever needed to leave the house in a hurry.
so they were told to pack dried food, a wallet with important documents in, waterproof clothing etc.. now this, it seems, was pretty relevant because i live in gloucester where were had terrible floods a few weeks ago, and some peoples houses were flooded out, the entire city had its water cut off for a fortnight because the pumping station flooded, and most work places were unable to allow staff in because they were not able to provide flushing toilets or running water.. so my mims friend was totally blown away by how jehovah is so clever - although having dried food and your passport in a waterproof wallet did nothing to help you flush the toilet for a fortnight.. but - now heres to point of this long and rambling story - i suddenly got super angry about this article and its survivialist mentalilty.
AAAHHH!!! ranting is good therapy. Let it all out.
wanna
she was beautiful.
her name was aliyah.
she would have been 5 mos tomorrow.
thinking of you and your family
wanna
fjtoth has 50+, i know "changeling" is 40......just wondering ....
35 years
Does a Bible study peeing all over the floor count?
wanna
her life story was the front cover on the july 15, 1979 of the craptower ... she is now dead.
the wt and the memorial program can be downloaded on the link below.. .
through his organization have i found.
I remember her experience in 1979.I was a teenager back then and can remember vividly how I felt sick to my stomach to think that she abandoned her little children and why would Jehovah allow her to abandon her family. It seemed so unnatural to me.
May she rest in peace.
wanna
we all know that the watchtower changes are supposed to allow more "pointed counsel".
this will be coming quite soon - i already have my september magazines - so only 6 more issues and we will be into the january 2008 issues.
what are some of the issues that may be addressed in this pointed counsel?.
What do you all think?
I don't really know what the nature and the content will be. I do know this from talking to longtime friends in the "troof", that many are sick and tired of all the negative talk about education and the solicitation for more funds.
I hope Watchtower does all of what you say. Some are starting to see it now and many more will see it then.
Wanna
barbara anderson has just released a new book on cd that contains some 5000 pages of public court records from the nine lawsuits involving 16 victims that the wts settled secretly in may of this year, plus documents from two other cases the society settled in 2000 and 2006.. .
its called secrets of pedophilia in an american religion: jehovahs witnesses in crisis.. .
the book, and more info from barbara about it, is available here:.
BTTT
does your conscience torment you knowing that you are misleading the flock of god as you continue teaching them the heresies of the watchtower society?.
why are you staying in the organization and posting here at the same time?.
do you really believe that you can help your families to reject the watchtower society while remaining an elder and visibly appearing to support their lies and false teachings?.
Does the end justify the means? I don't know. But I don't feel that this is a moral dilemma. What we are speaking of is, after all, just a cult. A man made religion. Why do they deserve my respect? Right now, they do not "need to know" my true feelings. I will reveal those to them when I am ready.
Well said Gary1914.
I applaud you for what you are doing. I know that it takes a great deal of intestinal fortitude to put up with the BS.
Others should not judge.Those of you able to get out and put it behind you, good for you. But not everyone can do that.
I will be forever indebted to my husband for putting up with the crap for my sake. I am grateful that he didin't stop cold turkey when he started to find out things. Our marriage would have ended for sure because I had sold my soul to the watchtower.
Do we want to stay for ever? Of course not. But in the meantime some of us do what we hav to do.
wanna
having put some distance in between us and the wts, i can't read any of the society's publications without feeling extremely uncomfortable and irritated by the tone and language that the society uses.
it all sounds the same - patronising, guilt-inducing, condescending, intellectually unchallenging, etc.
as far as i'm aware the term is 'watchtower speak'.
at my house we call it the "TROOF".
i am still working on my wife, some progress is being made, but it is slow going.. here is how i plan to reason with her regarding the 9/07 km article on "non-endorsed" methods of study.
feel free to use or adapt yourself, if you are in a similar situation.. .
suppose that one day a stranger calls the house when i am not at home.
What I have seen in my experience (and from listening to the experience of others) is that bringing up issues that call the Watchtower into question directly are a big no no. Instead you want to try back door conversations
There certainly is a lot of truth to this. I recall one occasion when my husband said to me: "Just think honey, Jesus has been in power since 1914. That means that there are only 900 years left to his reign".
I thought about this for a long time. I reasoned "if Jesus started ruling in 1914 hubby is right there are only 900 years left.Why doesn't the society realize this". I believe these "back door" conservations really are more effective.
It takes careful cajoling to help someone out. Bringing up an issue to a solid JW may be too confrontational.
wanna