..you had been away from the wt for a time.
i saw a quote tonight and it leapt off the page for me.. "now i know what it feels like to be part of a circle of friends, part of a group.
its a very different feeling than i have had before and it feels wonderful and right'.. spoken by a lady after being released of her heart "wall" that she had established for protection.. + comments please if you like.
The following helped me a lot when I left (still struggling with it but I keep trying):
"The bond that links your true family is not one of blood, but of respect and joy in each other's life.
i was looking at the september 2015 issue of the watchtower, which, unlike the simplified and study editions, appears to be aimed at non-jws.
a couple of articles caught my eye that quote biblical sources which are somewhat less than convincing to a non-believer.. firstly 'what do jehovah's witnesses believe?
' says that the core belief is that 'all scripture is inspired of god and beneficial'.
bemused- Firstly 'What do Jehovah's Witnesses Believe?' says that the core belief is that 'all scripture is inspired of God and beneficial'.
Great topic. You and others pointed out the problem with circular logic. But wait, hang on... There seems to be another problem which didn't dawn on me until years after I had left. The verse precedes the creation of the "Bible". So, which scriptures was it talking about? Isn't that a problem as well?
just wondering?
he denied being in subjection to the the watchtower corporation so are they still using him in their regular monthly broadcast.
To all you JWs still in, please go to your elders and say the following:
*"I do not answer to Watchtower. . . . Watchtower does not have, and never has had, any authority over me." -
...then enjoy the warmth and hospitality of a JC meeting in the backroom...
*(Gerrit Lösch, Declaration signed and executed on February 4th, 2014)
from 2 samuel 24. i am so mad at myself for not making a comment how could anyone explain this away?
then after he slaughters 70,000 he then feels regret?
richard dawkins admitted that information inside of dna, and the origin of life on earth, might point to intelligent designers, perhaps extraterrestrials.
(see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boncjbrrdq8 )richard dawkins further admitted, in a debate with francis collins for time magazine, that science might point to a creator existing, but that this creator might not be anything like yahweh:.
time: "could the answer be god?
FusionTheism -
Freemindfade,
So you're saying that ANYONE who thinks there is a God has "an agenda" which is NOT the truth?
I can't speak for Freemindfade, but it seems to me that a number of people who believe in God do have an agenda - i.e. to get other people to believe the same thing. And, since they cannot provide good evidence, then by definition, what they are proposing may not be true.
FusionTheism, please hear me out... I do have an agenda. I want to live in a peaceful, just, and habitable planet. Right now, we have a world full of people with access to some really horrible things who all think that they are right because faith in <insert preferred deity> says in the <insert preferred holy book> that they need to shape the world to their beliefs. Everyone seems to understand the dangers of this except when it comes to their pet beliefs and religion. The idea that people are making life-and-death decisions for themselves and others based on faith or a feeling or wishful thinking scares the Hell out of me. If that does not scare you then I don't know what to tell you.
from 2 samuel 24. i am so mad at myself for not making a comment how could anyone explain this away?
then after he slaughters 70,000 he then feels regret?
richard dawkins admitted that information inside of dna, and the origin of life on earth, might point to intelligent designers, perhaps extraterrestrials.
(see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boncjbrrdq8 )richard dawkins further admitted, in a debate with francis collins for time magazine, that science might point to a creator existing, but that this creator might not be anything like yahweh:.
time: "could the answer be god?
Ruby456 - I believe that Richard Dawkins meme theory fuels the militancy of militant atheists. It probably also fuels his own militancy.
Not sure what you mean by that but if it means that 'meme theory (and other theories) provides another leverage to remove the undue privilege of religion over our society', well then, I am in favor of any good theories that do so.
i thought at one time or maybe they still do believe that the dinosaurs were vegetarians?
Crazyguy, Thanks for the walk down memory lane. I used to believe all that stuff pointed out by other posters...I am totally ashamed of that.
"Jurassic Park" would have totally sucked (and would have been 10 seconds in length) if that was true. "Welcome to Jurassic Park!...Oh, look at all the dinosaurs, they are all vegetarians and get along....everybody lives...End Credits..."
1. some say we are all gods, and god is omnipresent..
2. some say: god created his children who later challenged his sovereignty, who in turn asked his eldest son: go down to the world, do not resist the wicked, but be murdered by them, the value of which will be used to atone the sins of the world..
3. universe arose out of a big bang.
iconoclastic - Despite all of the advances in engineering and computer technology, the development of a robotic hand that is as dexterous as a human hand still exceeds the grasp of modern science.
Yes. The "human hand still exceeds the grasp (pun intended?) of modern science"...at this time. In the future this may not be the case about the human hand, artificial intelligence, interstellar travel, etc. We keep making progress and we have just barely started in these areas compared to the timescale of evolution, as other posters pointed out well.
Regardless, the idea that - 'a human can or cannot make a "human hand"' still says nothing about about evolution or the argument for God. All the argument can say is that there are times humans can replicate nature, or can't (at this time). However, what we are finding out is that with some ingenuity and hard work we can often exceed nature in remarkable ways (e.g. airplanes, etc.).
The thing that bugs me the most is how this "we can't make something...therefore God" argument has been "moving the goalpost" for thousands of years. If humans do end up making a human hand, people who use this argument will simply point to something else that currently has not been achieved.
