It is time for another look at the organization that in many ways uniquely reflects the fruits of Christianity.
I think he must have fallen on his head!
greg stafford posted on july 1, 2006 that he is returning to the organization.
you can read his article at: http://www.elihubooks.com/greg-stafford/another.htm.
his rationale and logic are most interesting.
It is time for another look at the organization that in many ways uniquely reflects the fruits of Christianity.
I think he must have fallen on his head!
greg stafford posted on july 1, 2006 that he is returning to the organization.
you can read his article at: http://www.elihubooks.com/greg-stafford/another.htm.
his rationale and logic are most interesting.
I respect and admire Mr. Stafford. I have read his books and they have made me think and helped me to come to terms with my own crises of conscience.
However, the article yopu referred to smacks of self-importance and egoism.
Mr. Stafford is allowed to attend meetings "on a limited basis" just by talking to the elders? He is able to come and go as he pleases. He can criticize the Witnesses but still is able to be one of them when he chooses to? My, my, isn't that grand.
It also seems that he believes that his opinions are the only ones that matter and the exJW's that have legitimate questions and thoughts are too petty to be dealth with.
Excuse me please if I am offending anyone, but his article reeks of someone who believes his own publicity, puffs out his chest and proclaims that he is the greatest.
revmalk has graciously agreed to host ldh's interview with j.r. brown.
http://www.lambsroar.org/jrbrown-interview-1.wma.
http://www.lambsroar.org/jrbrown-interview-2.wma.
Awesome interview!
LDH, my hat is off to you!
i posted a week or two ago that i would stop attending meetings and being an elder.
i decided to wait on this after we received the june 7th boe letter.
i was interested in getting more information from other friends & family at bethel.
The only ones left qualifying will be the real hard asses who have no sympathy for anyone.
And also the slick two faced elders who don't really believe and who are only in it for the power that being an elder gives them.
a rumor alert indeed, but it could be related to the distribution of kingdom news no.37, "false religions end is near.".
the following is posted from e-watchman's forum.. make of it what you will, but in light of all the rhetoric about "deliverance at hand" and "independent thinking", nothing would surprise me anymore.. http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1502&st=0 we posted about an announcement it was only local to our cong.
however we have found out that there is going to be an announcement sometime in september and it is supposed to be shocking.
I was at the Kingdom Hall tonight and I went through all the recent BOE letters just to make sure that I didn't miss one, because sometimes I do. Well, there was nothing special in any of them and certainly not an shocking announcement.
When I got home I called my brother who is a DO and asked him if he had heard anything about a special announcement. He said that the society is trying to get everyone excited and pumped up for the last six months of the year so that the figures will be better for this year than they were for last year. If the brothers think Armegeddon is near then they will spend more time in the field service and replacements will be greater. Also special campaigns get the brothers all excited and they look forward to them, ergo, more time in field service. At the same time. if interested ones and bible studies are concerned that the end is near there will be more baptisms. Rhese special campaigns and hints of Armegeddon are win, win, strategies for the organization
But he might know something else that he is not telling me. I don't know. He keeps some stuff close to his vest. I'll keep pumping him.
do you think they might really believe that?
I think that only the oldest of them actually believes it. However, most of these men are the equivalent of corporate executives who will say and do whatever is necessary to effectuate a growth of their corporation. Sadly, however, I do believe that many average Witnesses are convinced that the end is coming any day now. There is a sucker born every minute!
finally i am free.
i wandered outside the convention around mid-afternoon, returning for the concluding song, so i didn't get to hear "summary of the botchtower" nor the final talk (which gets all the seals clapping).. .
know that the kingdom of god is near .
Even if they can't leave because of family ties, such as myself, they are unproductive and unfruitful because of what they know. They don't contribute towards the World Wide Work, they make up their hours and they don't study for meetings.
You should see my Field Service Report since I was awakened as to the fraud that this organization is. I have never been so spiritual. Many hours, many bible studies, return calls...... the works! And all this is done with a stroke of the mighty pen!
Before I was generous with my money and would often contribute when I could not afford to. Now, I would not contribute a penny if I found it on the ground.
The above comment describes me to a tee!
I also increased my magazine order and get a pile of literature every month that I do not pay for. Surprisingly, I don't even feel guilty about it.
finally i am free.
i wandered outside the convention around mid-afternoon, returning for the concluding song, so i didn't get to hear "summary of the botchtower" nor the final talk (which gets all the seals clapping).. .
know that the kingdom of god is near .
i do not believe they are.. i think that some of the governing body members are sincere, god fearing men, who really believe the crap that they are dishing out to their members.
some of these men have been waiting for decades for paradise and refuse to give up on the idea that it will someday come.. on the other hand.
i believe that others on the governing body are actually evil.
It reminded me of getting smacked around by my dad when I was a kid, and being told afterward "I only did that because I love you so much."
Scully, I completely agree. Makes you wonder how we can get them to love us less!
i do not believe they are.. i think that some of the governing body members are sincere, god fearing men, who really believe the crap that they are dishing out to their members.
some of these men have been waiting for decades for paradise and refuse to give up on the idea that it will someday come.. on the other hand.
i believe that others on the governing body are actually evil.
I do not believe they are.
I think that some of the Governing Body members are sincere, God fearing men, who really believe the crap that they are dishing out to their members. Some of these men have been waiting for decades for Paradise and refuse to give up on the idea that it will someday come.
On the other hand. I believe that others on the Governing Body are actually evil. They are slick purveyors of their own agendas, drunk with the power that their money brings them. They have little or no regard for the rank and file members and see them as inferior, weak and able to be manipulated.
The term "the brothers" is tossed about when referring to their members and they are thought of as all one group, with one mind, goose stepping to their will. It is a source of amusement to some of them.
The rank and file are the puppets and they as the marionettes are supplied with a constant source of entertainment.
They know that they can do or say practically anything and it will be accepted by their puppets.
Sometimes at the end of a meetings it is announced "the Governing Body" loves you. How many of you have heard this announced at the Kingdom Hall.
It is a ploy to keep you in line by reaching your heart with words of love.