my somewhat "inactive" mother says she's getting the feeling that i'm losing my faith in the wts and has asked me to explain to her.
problem is, i locked up because it's been so recent and my mother can be quite intimidating.
she's a "see it to believe it" person and has suggested that i show her proof.
UnDisfellowshipped, Hooberus:
Thanks a bunch for the help. I'm taking alot of notes. I'm slowly compiling my sheet. Strong enough to withstand her criticism and not get blown over by her programmed responses. And I think it just may stand up along with Ray's book CoC.
......and what are the different levels?
thanks.
Well good grief, post more! Put in more time and more posts! Fill in the time slip!.... sorry, flashback.
my somewhat "inactive" mother says she's getting the feeling that i'm losing my faith in the wts and has asked me to explain to her.
problem is, i locked up because it's been so recent and my mother can be quite intimidating.
she's a "see it to believe it" person and has suggested that i show her proof.
wednesday,
Yeah, I've thought of that. The thing is, she's really pressing me to "explain myself". A simple "No" isn't enough. And it's become even more hard because she's started to go back to the meestings. A first in nearly 2 years. I decided not to go today, but it really bothered her that I didn't go. She's wanting to know why I'm "acting this way" and wants to know what's "wrong". I never have an answer because I know how she'll twist my words and make me feel so small.
i'm having a bit of a problem.. my mother recently decided to go back to the meetings.
it isn't enough that i've made a personal decision for myself to not go.
but i find her constantly trying to push me to go.
I'm having a bit of a problem.
My mother recently decided to go back to the meetings. It isn't enough that I've made a personal decision for myself to not go. But I find her constantly trying to push me to go. I don't like her tactics either. Coming and trying to have conversations with me and trying to question me.
I haven't fully declared my stance as far as the organization. I've done my own research and have kept it to myself. I'm aware that coming out and stating my case will have some consequences. Being that all of my family are DEEPLY into it. Very strong beliefs in being JW's. I was raised as one, but it just isn't my views anymore.
It's just really frustrating with her trying to force me to go to the meetings and trying to use every opportunity as a "witness" for me to go back.
I'm just sick of the lies and hypocrisy... the false doctrines. The double standards, the haughtiness and greediness. And it really ticks me off that NONE of my family has ever done any research of any kind at any point in their life.
I feel... or rather know, that they'll peck me endlessly with extreme force once I tell them that it's no longer my views as far as the organization.
Should I go occasionally? Or... any advice? I plan to disassociate myself once I move out. But until then, it's such a hassle.
my somewhat "inactive" mother says she's getting the feeling that i'm losing my faith in the wts and has asked me to explain to her.
problem is, i locked up because it's been so recent and my mother can be quite intimidating.
she's a "see it to believe it" person and has suggested that i show her proof.
Thanks NewLight, I'll be sure to read those websites as well. :)
my somewhat "inactive" mother says she's getting the feeling that i'm losing my faith in the wts and has asked me to explain to her.
problem is, i locked up because it's been so recent and my mother can be quite intimidating.
she's a "see it to believe it" person and has suggested that i show her proof.
Hmm, yeah that sounds like a good idea. I forgot about that book. Maybe I'll pick that up from the library. I hope it's there. Or I'll just order it somewhere.
Thanks Twink!
my somewhat "inactive" mother says she's getting the feeling that i'm losing my faith in the wts and has asked me to explain to her.
problem is, i locked up because it's been so recent and my mother can be quite intimidating.
she's a "see it to believe it" person and has suggested that i show her proof.
My somewhat "inactive" mother says she's getting the feeling that I'm losing my faith in the WTS and has asked me to explain to her. Problem is, I locked up because it's been so recent and my mother can be quite intimidating. She's a "see it to believe it" person and has suggested that I show her proof. I try to explain and speak, but I get pinned up and nervous because I'm newly learning myself.
I sat and thought about it a while and decided to just give her a "info sheet" maybe 2-3 pages long, that we can study together and ask questions. I'm convinced, but she's still thinking that WTS is "the truth" and that something must be wrong wit her for having feelings of doubt. So, she wanted me to show and teach her what I've learned and to give her an explanation for my disbelief in the organization. For now, she seems to have an open mind. And I feel that now is the time to act on that... an act out of love for my mother. Because I don't want to see her hurt and depressed anymore over what she's feeling about the society. She's at the KH right now out of fear. I've decided not to go, but I kno when she get's back, she's going to ask me why I did what I did.
I know where to look and research. But I was wondering if I could get some tips and info on how to present it and where to start. Maybe learns something new that I haven't found out yet. I wrote up a draft, but I want it to be an honest fact sheet and easy to understand. I've done a numbered list of things for her to read and look up for herself. But it's so.... well, I just need some help. lol
A basic info sheet with all WT refereces that she can look up for herself. It's important that the scriptures and comments quoted are from the WT publications and NWT bible.
I'm only doing this because she's asked me, and I don't want to pass on the oppotunity...
Edited by - Nickey on 29 December 2002 18:21:32
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lots of tetris-style puzzle games have come and gone, but this one's a winner!.
I'm a Yahoo "Dynomite" addict. I have collapse too though...
last nite in chat i had a good time talking about different weight loss strategies and exercise.
i am trying to get myself in shape ,start walking and my diet is in need of a major overhaul.
what do you think is the best way to get in shape?
I'm lazy. I just take Calorad and sleep it off.
don't get me wrong, i'm not one to actively persecute jw's, i'm just wondering what you guys think is the best agrument/point to use when a pesky brother or sister just won't leave you alone.
normally, i am willing to listen to their drivel out of respect (even though i have no respect for the wt) but there are times when i am not in the mood to hear them babble.
i normally bring up the 1914 generation point, and it normally works.
Happy,
I decided to leave for alot of different reasons. One of the main reasons was the contradictions and some hyporcritical statements/actions made.
Something odd kept happening to my family. An incident happened back in the early 90's that almost got my mother disfellowshipped. I ask her what was going on and she burst out in tears that they framed her because she spoke of something she wasn't suppose to regarding a situation. It was a private meeting between her and the elders. I started noticing later on that no matter what congregation we went to, the elders always knew of the situation. And it would leak into every congregation. We ended up getting treated badly. Very rude and unloving at times. They'd do alot of things that were outright rude...
We moved to another state and yet the elders still knew of the situation as if it was on file. And that's when it struck me that it just may be the case.
I also decided to seperate myself because the total control. It was too overbearing. And I found myself living every second of my life worrying and watching every little thing I did and said. I felt half-dead and my life was passing me by. Then I started researching and answered all my doubts. Too many flip-flops and changing up of doctrines. 1914 and the UN was what came to my attention first.
It all came down to a feeling of something not being right. I've felt something was wrong since I was 7 years old... everything else that followed only confirmed it. And things just started revealing itself.
So, that's pretty much my story...
