Hi refiners fire, Yes, Planet X means both uncertain and 10th.The Sumerians referred to it as the 12th or Nebheru because they included the Sun and Moon as planets 10 and 11. Nebheru or Nibiru may have been a planet where the asteriod belt is now. Some feel the mystery intruder-planet is Venus, others Mars and still others maintain Nibiru has a 3600 year cycle with aphelion out somehwere in the Saggitarius constellation. No-one knows with certainty.Because the myths about it are myriad I'm supposing it is a genuine regular intruder. Even scripture alludes to it in several places other than Mat24:29. Some claim it should reach perihelion May/June 2003; others somewhere within the next 10 years. Some claim it will blast into our solar system via the Duat or between Orion and Sirius where the Great Pyramid is. Others say it will come through Centaurus, and still others claim to have sighted it elsewhere in the southern celestial sphere. A general census seems to be that it is what contemporary scientists call a brown dwarf star: It apparently has been sighted using infrared telescopes. It is claimed it will burst into a blood-red glow when it enters our solar system. My research suggests its last major destructive passage caused the Great Flood. I'm proposing this is what Jesus what referring to as the only singular Sign prior to his 2nd Coming. Thus his statements about the Fig Tree and The Generation apply to the period between the havoc caused by this large stellar body's flyby and Christ's Return. Does this make any sense to you?
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12th Planet: What if......
by blackguard inwhat if.... the so-called tribulation means distress and is great only in the sense of duration, having ran uninterruptedly for nigh on 2000 years?.
what if....the so-called last days commenced at pentecost and has also been running uninterruptedly since?.
what if....the so-called signs of the last days are the very non-signs christ jesus warned not to be decieved by?.
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12th Planet: What if......
by blackguard inwhat if.... the so-called tribulation means distress and is great only in the sense of duration, having ran uninterruptedly for nigh on 2000 years?.
what if....the so-called last days commenced at pentecost and has also been running uninterruptedly since?.
what if....the so-called signs of the last days are the very non-signs christ jesus warned not to be decieved by?.
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Hi Brad, Yes, I share you view of the news--it can be depressing, as can what you call gloom and doom proclamations. Scientists and governments have observatories to view the heavens for many reasons. The mainline media reports very little on astronomy research unless it contains stories of asteroids on collision course with earth. Mat24:29 isn't the only scripture which is suggestive that the only sign is a large stellar body passage through our solar system. And there isn't only one scientist proclaiming a large incoming body. If you're interested check out www.darkstar1.co.uk. Besides,I don't guarantee that I've got this right anyhow! If I have I figure others might think similarly
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12th Planet: What if......
by blackguard inwhat if.... the so-called tribulation means distress and is great only in the sense of duration, having ran uninterruptedly for nigh on 2000 years?.
what if....the so-called last days commenced at pentecost and has also been running uninterruptedly since?.
what if....the so-called signs of the last days are the very non-signs christ jesus warned not to be decieved by?.
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What if.... The so-called Tribulation means Distress and is Great only in the sense of Duration, having ran uninterruptedly for nigh on 2000 years?
What if....The so-called Last Days commenced at Pentecost and has also been running uninterruptedly since?
What if....The so-called Signs Of The Last Days are the very non-signs Christ Jesus warned NOT to be decieved by?
What if....The ONLY sign he gave is that recorded at Mat24:29?
What if...That Sign means the passage into our solar system of a large brown dwarf star, and this star is a regular intruder, on a course between earth and sun?
What if....This brown dwarf star has been observed in history and is recorded in the myths of many tribes and is alluded to in scripture?
What if...This star has previously been known as, The Sundisc, Phoenix, Celestial Snake, Qetzalcoatl, PlanetX, et.al?
What if....The corporate WTS has long known about this regular intruder comet via its occultic founder and its contemporary Illuminist executives willfully withold this and other items of information from its religious membership?
What if....This brown dwarf is incoming now and according to some scientists should arrive somewhere between 2003-2012?
What if....This event is harbinger to the next major event: The Second Coming?
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THE FOLLOWING WILL BE OF SPECIAL INTEREST
by RR inbelow is a document that will be of interest to all interested in the events of 1917 following the death of pastor charles taze russell.
having shared this with jw's, they question the validity of this document, even after showing them copies and scans of the original in our archives.
the seven members of the board as now constituted are a. i. ritchie, w. e. van amburgh, h. c. rockwell, j. d. wright i. f. hoskins, a. n. pierson and j. f.
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Hi RR,
Is there any other point to sharing these apparently factual documents other than Joe Rutherford unrighteously seized the Illuminist corporation by coup d'etat?
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The Watchtower Joins The Catholic Church
by Voyager injolene chu is a holocaust researcher, and book writer for the watchtower bible and tract society.
jolene has joined and sits on the american research committee, at st. joseph's university.
this is a roman catholic interfaith private university.
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Hi Voyager,
I am not surprised to see the corporate WTS involved in any manner of intrigues. However, Is Jolene Chu a jaydub or simply a non-jw contractor? Does anyone have a dossier on this person?
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Are there only two ways out of the WT World?
by Maverick inwe are told we can quit (dissassociate) or get kicked out ( dissfellowshipped), but are these the only options we have?
while you cannot stop people from acting a certain way around you there may be a way to take to power away from the society and give it back to the people who love you and know it their hearts that shunning in unloving.
check out the baptism nullification letter in the friends forum posted by blackguard.
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Hey dedalus,
If it's any consolation, as survivors of mindcontrol, I suspect we're all a little derranged! This forum allows what was intolerable in the tightly controlled watchtower environment---some semblance of openness based on our diverse experiences and views. I suspect that the challenge of Christian freedom is to attain unity via diversity, AND not pseudo-unity via conformity as mind control groups demand. Keep up with your opposing views; there is so much to learn, not only about the subject matter under discussion, but how others think and feel and reason. Thank you for your input here.
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1919.WTBS Inc.'s holy year!
by MacHislopp inby the wtbs inc. as years with a special and/or
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"jehovah's witnesss in the divine purpose " published by the wtbs inc. .
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Hi Mac,
No, unfortunately none are the quote I've been seeking. 1975 was specifically mentioned as a date when the USSR was expected to conquer a decadent USA. Thank you for your efforts. -
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Secrets of a KH Fartologist
by blackguard inunbeknown to the general membership, the watcher corporations throughout the english speaking world employs professional flatulents(noun).
the reason for this should become obvious to those not familiar with the mind-controlled environment in the corporate gulags sometimes called congregations.
i was one of several fartologists who was sent to various gulag hotspots to quell dissent.. we have three major specialities: the ionizer, the paint peeler and the sunday special.
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Hey Temecula Mole, You bring tears of joy to my eyes. I trust a sniff test will do the same for others. Don't you just hate it when you're standing in a long line waiting to pay for your coffee and buns and decide there and then to let one rip so as to clear the line and get to the cashier, but as you do you realise that there was more substance than gas? I guess this is what you might call the 'Juicer'. If the line doesn't clear quickly, boy haven't you got a mess on your buns by the time you reach the cashier?
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Are there only two ways out of the WT World?
by Maverick inwe are told we can quit (dissassociate) or get kicked out ( dissfellowshipped), but are these the only options we have?
while you cannot stop people from acting a certain way around you there may be a way to take to power away from the society and give it back to the people who love you and know it their hearts that shunning in unloving.
check out the baptism nullification letter in the friends forum posted by blackguard.
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Hey dedalus, I cannot speak for maverick, his views on D/F't & D/A'n etc.. What I see in this BN is the potential for something better, something by which the individual can take the stick out of the tyrants' hands and leave on his terms and still give the proles a watchtower-legalistic basis to maintain communication with the now worldly reinstated individual. When an individual is D/F'd he permits the action on the thugs' terms; when he D/A's he admits departure on the thugs' terms. BN is taking this out of the thugs' hands, it seems. Now most of my terms, clauses and phrases are couched in "seems", "may", "might" etc. for the simple reason I do not know how successful this method will or will not be. Furthermore, I would argue if a person has permitted his own D/F't or D/A'n he allows the perpetuation of any labelling of himself as an implied acceptance of the tyrants' perpetual control over him and cannot sue. But that's just my opinion. May be there's a legal mind that'd like to comment on this.
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Are there only two ways out of the WT World?
by Maverick inwe are told we can quit (dissassociate) or get kicked out ( dissfellowshipped), but are these the only options we have?
while you cannot stop people from acting a certain way around you there may be a way to take to power away from the society and give it back to the people who love you and know it their hearts that shunning in unloving.
check out the baptism nullification letter in the friends forum posted by blackguard.
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Hey dedalus, I think it's fair to say that baptism nullification is hypothetical at this point in time. No-one can state categorically that it works in the way it's theorized to. This is the context of this discussion, isn't it? What we do know is that D/Fment and D/A'n is a one-way street in regards to maintaining communication with friends and family within the gulags. BN at least holds the potential for civility. In regards to lawsuits under the present D/F & D/A arrangement it's been my understanding that legally one can do little to nothing for the simple reason that the baptism is the means by which contractual agreement emerges and binds the individual to the terms implied or otherwise known in his relationship to the spiritual corporate tyrant. BN, in theory, seems to exempt the individual from the contract. Even maverick doesn't know postively how this will pan out. I recall him stating that he maintains communication with some of those to whom he sent a copy of his BN. This might suggest BN is working.
Farkel, although demonstrating the tragedy of watcher-induced suicides, raises the possibility that BN could be construed as spiritual suicide, thus additionally releasing the individual from bondage to corporate tyranny.