Posts by av8orntexas

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Why does guilt often remain so long with those who've left the JWs?

by And He Ran in

i would be interested in getting people's input in why so many jws - including me from time to time, though less so now - seem to be burdened by guilt after they've left, even after they've successfully faded and aren't being hassled by family or elders.

is it a residual leftover of the indoctrination over the years?

i welcome your comments.

av8orntexas

So about those typo's

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Why does guilt often remain so long with those who've left the JWs?

by And He Ran in

i would be interested in getting people's input in why so many jws - including me from time to time, though less so now - seem to be burdened by guilt after they've left, even after they've successfully faded and aren't being hassled by family or elders.

is it a residual leftover of the indoctrination over the years?

i welcome your comments.

av8orntexas

Hello everyone. I'm new...well somewhat new. I joined SIX YEARS ago and I've see-sawed now back and forth. I have been to an convention since 2002 !!!! I'm neither DF'd of reporved. Yet, I'm starting to feel many who attend subscribe to a "do as I teach,not as I do " philosophy. In the last year I've started to feel as if I've wasted the last 12 years of my life. My mother lives in another state and thinks I still regularly attend. I hang on,going once every 3-4 months or so,I've told people I was attending an english hall because my work schedule, as I am in a spanish hall. Right now In limbo. I've lurked here off an on over the years and lately, I think I'm becoming increasingly aware that the JW's may not be it for me,but.........I keep hnaging on, a bit nervous of who I'll have if I leave ? Does this make sense to anyone ?

Frustrated and Lonely.

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Name the 'Finest Hypocrites' you know.

by AK - Jeff in

i knew of an elder who ran a janitorial business for decades here [surprize] - his primary employees were his kids, ranging in age from 3 or 4 to teenager at various times.

he would bring in the whole family, they would spread out and empty bags, vacuum, and dust.

in a flash they are out and off to the book study or whatever.. he was able to 'witness wipe' several offices after 5 o'clock and before the 7 o'clock meeting times.

av8orntexas

I guess, I can put myself up. I'm niether DF'd or any trouble,but like others on here. I see the actions of others, and I'm like WTF ? I'm killing myself and everyone is living the good life.

I'll start with a brother a know well, he has his own business doing commercial landscape. He and his dad live in some of the finest subdivions not far from me, both drive matching corvettes and the moment, I say something about changing positions at work, it's " Well how will it affect your relationship with Jehovah ? "

My ex.....a pioneer like I, she dumped me for a brother she had previously gone with, did they deed, before they got married, and now they're both DF'd. He wanted to just end it and pretend nothing happeded and she says he wanted to confess...if I know her like I do, it was the other way around no doubt. I guess I'm a pretty BIG hypocrite for talking to a DF'f person,but it was a year after the fact and I had to know., athe irony...she told my friend above, she was worried about my sprituality ( which was just fine ) and didn't know if she could respect me. I almost swore off women from California, especially LA, but I realize you can't blanket everybody.

My aunt. She yells and screams and argues with mom mom, and the minute she hits KH property, she's the faithful ruth.

Hipocrasy is a BIG reason I'm on this board. I've see-sawed back in forth for FIVE YEARS now. I joined, then thought people on here were talking out their *ss, I've gone back, and at the advise of a friend left the english congregation for the spanish and my cards are now there.

I'm now at a point where, I have noi friends in the congregation No one calls, and as far I can tell, they probably think I've fallen off the face of the earth. I have a great job I like,but since only a few people there ae JW's ( I don't think they know my situation. ) I associate with neither them or the "worldy" people. So I take comfort in reading comments on this site. Because truth be told Alot on here does make sense. Things I had an opinion about or thouyght I could never say, others on here have said it, and it angers me, because I juust turned 31, and over the last year and a half I'm increasingly feeling like I've pissed away a good chunk of my life and opprotunities by pioneering, "dumbing" myself down and not finishing college.

Essentially, I'm having ALOT of what if questions. I don't mean to ramble, I live in a large texas city and I've searched for groups to see if any EX-Jw's meet in my area to no avail. Nevertheless I feel like the biggest hypocrite. My mom who lives in another area, thinks I still go to the meetings,but it little......I've gone enough to know the booki study changed. That the Watchtower has changd somewhat, and I have been to an assebly/convention since 2004 !! Some days as someone in this thread said I feel like it is the right religion,but I'm increasingly have my doubts,but I stay because well other than the JW's who are suppossed to be your friends I have no one.

Extremly Lonely and frustrated.

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Hi all, I am new, found a JW

by -Tank in

meet her, and we all go out and have fun it was a great time, and .

went on, we talked more, and more...and more....and more, and .

family issues back home, so she and her friends did not get to see .

av8orntexas

Sounds like typical JW dating to me. Indecision and head games thrown in the mix, sadly.

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Women of substance

by Thinking of Leaving in

would you rather date an overweight woman who has a beautiful face or one who isn't overweight and is just plain ugly.

how about a woman with a few curves, say about 20 lbs overweight or so for her height?

discuss.

av8orntexas

I like the woman of substance...much like a woman wants a man of substance. Physically..I tend to lean towards a cury woman. It's not set in stone or anything,but curves catch my eye. Nothing wrong if you have some "junk" in your trunk,lol.

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20th Anniversay

by VoidEater in

my partner and i celebrate our 20th anniversary today!.

hmm...a successful relationship outside of the the troof...who would've thought it possible.... anyways - 20 years without a raised voice, a fight, a heated argument; 20 years of mutual respect, even when not in agreement, and getting along; 20 years of love and kindness, and mutual support.. who would've thought a jw and a mormon could both recover and prosper...!.

av8orntexas

Congrats, I only I can say the same one day. Very impressive. I wish you many more good years ahead.

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Dating a df girl who wants to go back - Do I have a chance?

by mrburns in

having read some of the previous posts, i'm pretty sure what the majority answer will be.

my situation is similar.

we met a little over a year ago, she got df over her relationship with me, something that put her in a pretty long depression that she gradually grew out of (with some notable setbacks along the way).

av8orntexas

Vinny,

Thanks for those links. Ive found out by this site and the internet that I'm not the only one who has seen things that disturb or bother me. Questionable behavior by some in the cong, and yes appearances and social status in life are very important. Things I thought we were trying not to be is what I saw people being.

As to the subject of the thread, hmmmm if she was raised in the truth then it'll be hard. It's all some people know.

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Dating a non-jw

by Collegegurl in

just a little back story since i don't really post much here.

i'm 21, i go to school full time and work parttime.

i live with my parents.

av8orntexas

Get your education. Don't wait on the Org or what any jw says. If you like each other,then don't hide those feelings. You'll wind up doubting what you want to really do and may not do it. I've been on an off of here thinking Oh yeah, I met somebody. Most of, if not all, J-Dub's are frauds, until someone proves me wrong. Go with your feelings and dreams.

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Weird things relating to females at the KH

by Tatiana in

with all the news concerning the child abuse lawsuits, and from reading many comments concerning the wts' view of women, i started remembering lots of little things that were brought up at my kh in the many years i attended.

i don't remember anything pertaining to the brothers.

but, there were things brought up from the platform that just seem ridiculous.

av8orntexas

I remember a talk 97/98 or so aboutbeing modest and the wearing of braids. Since there weren't many black families in my hall and only two black sisters with braids it was obvious whom was being talked about. Then the talk at a convention around the same time 96-98 about brothers shaving their heads.

The only left for brothers to do was.......

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What to do?

by adam1989 in

ive currently been dating a jw girl for aboit 10 months now.

i met her at college and eventually we started going out.

at first is was difficult with me it took her a while to open up to me especially with holding hands and kissing.

av8orntexas

Go to school. You'll be happy for it, and able to provide for yourself and a family one day.