hey guys... check out this article.
though it is written satirically, it really does shine a light on the cold, hard "truth" that the witnesses believe.
can't have it both ways, jws.
Hey guys... check out this article. Though it is written satirically, it really does shine a light on the cold, hard "truth" that the witnesses believe. Can't have it both ways, JWs. They believe the entire EARTH'S population will be destroyed (except them, of course)... What would that REALLY mean?
Written perfectly. The satire is brilliant!
having trouble getting video to post sorry..hope the link works.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bhl-x1u0cua .
Yeah problemaddict... i'm totally not a rapper... Like at all. But I quite enjoyed the process.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dbfc4rclay&nr=1&feature=endscreen.
her blog.
http://jehovahs-witness-cult-control.blogspot.com/.
Vidiot -Satan in his "evil kitchen" made me think of a horned and cloven-hoofed Gordon Ramsey...
Hilarious!! So true!!!
my dad is currently attending a week long elders school.
dad is in his 70's and not in great health at the moment so this is adding to my anger that he is having to leave the house at 7am and doesn't return until 6pm and then has to lock himself away to study further in preparation for the next day.. he has also been told he is not to discuss anything about the school with other elders until they have all attended.
what are they learning about that isnt' already out there for all to read anyway.. they can't be learning more bible stuff as the bible is there to be read by the general public so i can only assume that its all top secret stuff that the rest of the congregation can't know about.
DATA-DOG - I feel that my daughter KNOWING deep in her heart that she can speak to me about anything, or any mistake, without fear, will do more good. We do not have to confess any sins to men. I believe the WTBTS fosters a lack of trust between parents and children. Also, the fear of being dragged before the Elders, causes many children to hide their activities. If they screw up big, and have ONLY painful memories of Elders meetings, then they are not going to tell you anything.
^^Perfectly said. And that is exactly what happened in my case. Zero trust in my mom. Told her nothing. She blindsided me with elders on too many occasions to count. Not good. Glad you are handling things differently with your daughter.
Sorry to hijack this post! I just thought it was some sort of policy the Elders get at these "meetings" they attend... wanted some clarification.
my dad is currently attending a week long elders school.
dad is in his 70's and not in great health at the moment so this is adding to my anger that he is having to leave the house at 7am and doesn't return until 6pm and then has to lock himself away to study further in preparation for the next day.. he has also been told he is not to discuss anything about the school with other elders until they have all attended.
what are they learning about that isnt' already out there for all to read anyway.. they can't be learning more bible stuff as the bible is there to be read by the general public so i can only assume that its all top secret stuff that the rest of the congregation can't know about.
Seventh Sojourn - I'll tell you, if something like that happened to a daughter of mine meeting with some elders, and I came to know of it - I would probably arrange a meeting with them. And I wouldn't let up, and wouldn't end it until I made them crap their diapers.
Wanna know what's really sick about it? My mom sat in on my judicial committee with me. She heard everything that was said and didn't even blink and eye, or wince. She saw it as true "discipline" from God.
my dad is currently attending a week long elders school.
dad is in his 70's and not in great health at the moment so this is adding to my anger that he is having to leave the house at 7am and doesn't return until 6pm and then has to lock himself away to study further in preparation for the next day.. he has also been told he is not to discuss anything about the school with other elders until they have all attended.
what are they learning about that isnt' already out there for all to read anyway.. they can't be learning more bible stuff as the bible is there to be read by the general public so i can only assume that its all top secret stuff that the rest of the congregation can't know about.
Vidiot - I think the custom was originally based on the assumption that if a young woman really likes the experience, she's likely to "reoffend".
^^LOL. Well I certainly liked it, and I certainly "reoffended"...but it most DEFINITELY was none of their business... What is even more ridiculous is that these "men" supposedly ordained by God couldn't even see that I wasn't repentant. I cried... out of embarrassment and humiliation at their questions... But about having sex? Nope. And I vowed to NEVER have another JC. Ever. That was the last time I would ever be called to answer perverse questions of that sort. I don't think guys can truly understand how that feels. Just sayin'.
my dad is currently attending a week long elders school.
dad is in his 70's and not in great health at the moment so this is adding to my anger that he is having to leave the house at 7am and doesn't return until 6pm and then has to lock himself away to study further in preparation for the next day.. he has also been told he is not to discuss anything about the school with other elders until they have all attended.
what are they learning about that isnt' already out there for all to read anyway.. they can't be learning more bible stuff as the bible is there to be read by the general public so i can only assume that its all top secret stuff that the rest of the congregation can't know about.
Seventh Sojourn - we were advised of the need to get enough detail to determine things like the context, nature, and degree of any acts under investigation. The point being that if you can't effectively isolate and identify the actual problem and it's associated behaviors, you can't address the issue and help the person properly (And file a proper report according to their guidelines).
I was pregnant... 9 months in fact. I had sex. It was pretty easy to see what had happened. There was, however, no need to ask if I had an orgasm? Where did he touch me? Did we have oral sex? If so, did I enjoy it? How much "heavy petting" was involved prior to the intercourse? What positions? Come on!
I get what you're saying, but this is way more than just trying to get an accurate understanding of the behavior. If a woman has sex, she admits it-that's pretty much all that needs to be said. You know?
my dad is currently attending a week long elders school.
dad is in his 70's and not in great health at the moment so this is adding to my anger that he is having to leave the house at 7am and doesn't return until 6pm and then has to lock himself away to study further in preparation for the next day.. he has also been told he is not to discuss anything about the school with other elders until they have all attended.
what are they learning about that isnt' already out there for all to read anyway.. they can't be learning more bible stuff as the bible is there to be read by the general public so i can only assume that its all top secret stuff that the rest of the congregation can't know about.
leaving_quietly - Judicial committees were discussed, but there was another more recent two-day school that dealt with DFings much more in detail.
^^ Do they also teach you to ask horrifying questions which involve women/girls and sexual acts? This has been a widespread practice, for years. Just curious if this is "elder" policy, or if this is something they do just to get themselves off? I was asked very personal, sexual things as a young girl in my JC with 3 elders I'd never met in my entire life... And heard firsthand from other girls and women who have been subjected to the same thing in several different congregations in all different locations of the US/Europe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dbfc4rclay&nr=1&feature=endscreen.
her blog.
http://jehovahs-witness-cult-control.blogspot.com/.
label licker - The most dangerous thing you can do is educate people. Because when people become educated you cannot control them, you cannot frighten them. People who are educated know their power, and don't surrender it to others!
^^Truer words have not been spoken. I couldn't agree with you more. The WT knows this too... Which is why they keep everyone as dumbed-down as possible. So sad.
moomanchu - I sent a link of your video to my mom, this is the response I got back.
^^That was hilarious and really, really sad at the same time. She sounds exactly like my mom. In fact, I'm sure she sounds like 99% of the JW moms out there. They're all the same. Why? Because who they ACTUALLY are as people is GONE. They've been emptied... and refilled with the cult's ideas, personality, and even phrases. They are nothing more than automatons--flesh and blood robots. Drones. I try so hard to remember that about my mom... This is not REALLY her. This someone else's ideas being spewed THROUGH her. Sometimes it helps. Most times, it doesn't.
jgnat - If your mom could open her heart to hear this video, I swear it would touch her.
^^The emotional side of me hopes that's true. The logical side of me knows it's not. My mom is too far gone. I'm not even sure she knows who or what she is beyond what this organization TELLS her she is. Let alone knowing who her DAUGHTER is. Especially given what her gods (the WBTS) tell her about me.
Thank you all! Sorry it's been a while--I'm still new on this forum, so I haven't gotten the hang of finding the threads again after I post on them.
Anyway, I appreciate the support!