Granny Linda, Like you I should be doing some housework, I have today off and have done nothing but a load of laundry. And I plan on being in chat at 12:45. Oh Well!
This is turning into a day to reflet on the past and hope for the future. Read my replies to you about grandchildren and Joelbear about being remembered.
So for this Thanksgiving I will cook a huge bird for me, my husband, my son and daughter and her boyfriend. We will play music while we cook, and make a big mess, and put the boyfriend to work cause he doesn't know how to cook and needs to learn. The women in this family have a problem with doing all the "womens work" LOL. Then we will play games while the turkey cooks, get a little bit drunk, stuff ourselves, clean up then collapse in the living room, maybe with a movie. It will be small but wonderful anyway. Ihope yours is also. els
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5Holidays and former JW's
by Granny Linda intwo threads in one sitting...i'd best get busy with housework or something.... i'm relaxing and enjoying conversation about the holidays when i had to remember this is a site for former jw's, or mostly anyhow.
last holiday season someone reminded me that not everyone has family to enjoy this time of year with, and it made me sad.
sorta like those bitter-sweet times that life sometimes gives us.
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Discussion With My Dad...Ended Badly.
by Valis insome of you may know that my parents were expected for "dinner" on thanksgiving day.
well i really don't think its going to happen now.
i called my dad last night becuase my mother, now visiting my kids in south texas and bringing them here to see me, said they had "stuff to do on thursday".
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Valis ,
I would like nothing better than to have a big old family dinner, but that is their decision, not mine. They know they are welcome here any time as long as they don't bring their religion with them.
Maybe something you said will sink in. Like you said, all it takes is kicking out just the right rock in the dam. Hang in there and have a great Thanksgiving anyway. els -
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JW Bro-in law dies
by borgfree insunday my brother-in-law, loyd gardiner, died.
he was an elder in the richmond, indiana congregation for about 50 years.. my son and i are having real problems deciding what to do.
we had decided not to go to the services because almost everyone there will be jws and we do not see the need to expose ourselves to the rude treatment by them.. i got a phone message last night from someone, not baptized jw, who thought we should go to the viewing today, to show "our respects".
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BF, He obviously loved you very much. I would go to honor that love. No one should be allowed to deny you the opportunity to pay your respects. I would go and evpress my condolences to eveyone there. If they choose to snub you then they will look like the unchristian ones.
I am sorry for your loss. Take care. els -
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How long are people remembered?
by joelbear in.
unless you are famous for something how long are you really remembered?.
maybe you are remembered at most by your grandchildren, but then your presence in the universe is gone.. so, really, what difference does it make whether you die in your 40's or your 70's, your memory simply lingers another 30 years at most.
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JB, I don't think it is so important how long you are remembered as how well you are remembered. I just replied to Granny Linda's post about grandchildren with some memories of my grandmother. I have good memories of many people. My family had great times when I was growing up. We did alot of things together, working on our farm, swimming in the river, congregation get-togethers to play softball, square dancing, rollerskating, ice skating and sliding in the winter. But all that was overshadowed by the "truth". My brother was disfellowshipped for smoking and various ones of us were always in some trouble for things that should have been a normal part of growing up. I had one wordly friend that I held on to tenaciously. I never really felt like a true witness, just someone going through the motions. All of the good memories are tainted by the disapproval that was always there in the background.
So I want my childrens memories to be better. I have kept them away from my parents disapproval. But now that they are older they know that it is there. They have written to my daughter asking how she thinks her college education will help her get everlasting life. My son knows that they think he is serving the devil because he is in the army. I try to tell them to be understanding but they don't want anything to do with my parents because they are shunning me.
So my memories are ruined a little by the "truth" and so will my kids be. But their kids, my grandchildren, will know only unconditional love. So maybe I will only be remembered by two or maybe three generations if I'm lucky. But those memories will be the best that I can make them and hopefully that spirit will be passed down to generations I will never know. els -
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Grandparents
by Granny Linda inhappy holiday, everyone.. i just wanted to say that being a grandparent is one of the greatest joy's.
i know there are other grandparents posting on this board who are proud of their offspring, too.. gosh, for all those lost years of having been raised jw - not really getting to know my maternal grandparents except through the eyes of an emotional jw.
sheeezzzzz.
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I don't have grandchildren yet...hopefully not too soon but not too long either. This thread did make me think about my grandmother though. She was not a witness but she did live with us most of the time when I was a teenager. She would not go to the hall with us, she always had someone from her church pick her up. I loved that! She was living with us when my husband Ken and I started going out. When we were engaged he used to play his guitar and sing with her. She thought he was wonderful.
There was one time when Ken was sitting at the island in our kitchen and I was standing in front of him, kind of between his legs with his arms around me. My mother was giving me dirty looks and my little tiny grandma piped up and said "Oh leave them alone, they're just spooning." LOL I loved her so much. I could talk to her about things without having to bring the "truth" into it.
I remember how delighted she was at our wedding. She was sitting with the "wordly" relatives and they were being mostly ignored by the congregation. Ken had a tape of old songs that she loved. I didn't know he had it till he put it in the sound system then walked across the room and asked her to dance. Ken is 6'6" and my grandma was all of 5' but they were wonderful. I will never forget how her eyes sparkled.
OK, I'm getting sappy now, I'll stop. I just hope I can be as good of a grandmother as she was when my turn comes. I plan to be. els -
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Salvadoran JW house cleaner STOLD my homemade JAM
by Cappuccino OC inyup, .
i have a cleaning lady because i had surgery on my left arm and i have a cast.
i hired her because i thought i could trust her.
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Capp, I am astounded at the audacity of this woman and her husband. And to act as if they have a monopoly on quoting scriptures correctly. There should be an emoticon with steam coming out it's ears for how I feel right now.
It would be different if she had stolen the jams to feed her children, but to send them to her mother? She probably said that she made them!
I am so sorry you had to go through this, especially when you are already busy and somewhat stressed out. It does really show what some witnesses are all about, doesn't it? It seems they don't really care about inactive ones coming back or they would have handled this whole mess differently.
I am sure you will come up with a wonderful gift, you seem like a caring and creative person.
I am curious to know if you make marion berry jam. My sister in law is from the Seattle area and gets this from her mom. She always passes a jar on to me and I love it. It has such a unique flavor. els -
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TODAY IS BIGRED'S BIRTHDAY!!!!
by Mulan intoday is my husband's birthday.
he has posted here, as bigred, but i have done it under his id too.........usually by mistake...........but a couple of times when i was at my posting limit.
happy birthday dave!!!.
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Happy Birthday Bigred!!!!!
I haven't been here that long but I truly enjoy your posts and those of your lovely wife. I think you are both wonderful, loving people, a tribute to XJWs everywhere. Have a great day! els -
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Serious Pet Peeves
by patio34 indon't mean to be gripey, but would like to vent about two observations i've made lately:.
1) a mother whose child wouldn't follow her soon enough at the grocery store.
she said "okay, goodbye!
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My daughter has quite a nice chest and does wear low cut shirts at times, but if a guy looks too long while they are having a conversation she puts a finger under his chin and lifts his head up. Works every time.
TTBoy: What's up with you? I haven't seen you around here for a while. els -
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Brain Freeze Fluff
by RubyTuesday inwhats your favorite flavor and brand?
mine is chocolate haagan daz.
edited by - rubytuesday on 21 november 2002 22:17:44.
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Ben and Jerry's; Phish Food or Vanilla Caramel Fudge.
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Technical Help Please?
by els ini am trying to get into this xjw database at http://www.watchtowernews.org/findexjws.htm.
i tried to download using the zip file option for 56k or slower ( i have a dial up modem ) install win zip came up, which i thought i already had, but it searched all the folders to make a list of favorites and the xjw one is there but i can't open it?
what am i doing wrong?
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I am trying to get into this XJW database at http://www.watchtowernews.org/findexjws.htm
I tried to download using the Zip File option for 56k or slower ( I have a dial up modem ) Install Win Zip came up, which I thought I already had, but it searched all the folders to make a list of favorites and the XJW one is there but I can't open it? What am I doing wrong? els