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JWs and Multiple Personality Disorder
by Illuminated in
1. jw
2. experiences
i remember the first time i was hit with my loves cult personality.

knowing the real him, my jaw dropped witnessing this switch.

i thought he had lost it.
Illuminated

rebel8 thank you for clarifying. Prior to creating this thread, a friend of mine had mentioned DID/dissociative disorder when I spoke to her about the natural self being split from the cult personality. I googled the info a bit prior to creating this thread, but was further confused in the articles I read.
Hassan did't mention DID in the video--my mistake in thinking it was the same thing. He did respond to another question stating many professionals misdiagnose cult member's symptoms when it's actually a cause of the cult.
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JWs and Multiple Personality Disorder
by Illuminated in
1. jw
2. experiences
i remember the first time i was hit with my loves cult personality.

knowing the real him, my jaw dropped witnessing this switch.

i thought he had lost it.
Illuminated

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I'm still a bit confused and perhaps I'm not understanding DID fully. I did watch this video...http://youtu.be/MduiLRExRyc
At 30:36 Steve Hassan says:
"As a mental health professional I would talk about mind control as a dissociative disorder where you're split from yourself, from your true self or your authentic self and part of the healing is feeling your feelings, having your thoughts and developing a tool kit for reality testing..."
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JW's - lack of knowledge of their own beliefs
by Illuminated in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
why are so many jehovah's witnesses unaware of their own beliefs.

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i would imagine the repetitive meetings, studies and door to door knocking would firmly root them in their beliefs.. yet, i've observed they either back out of challenging questions at times, or share a link to jay w org.. .
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Religious people in general are often ignorant of their own religious doctrine.
Some are. Yet, the ones I know, choose their mind over handing their minds to a group of men to control for them. It's extremely contradicting, dangerous and strange to claim you have the truth, know the truth, preach about it, hand your entire life over, yet be ignorant of what you actually believe.
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JWs and Multiple Personality Disorder
by Illuminated in
1. jw
2. experiences
i remember the first time i was hit with my loves cult personality.

knowing the real him, my jaw dropped witnessing this switch.

i thought he had lost it.
Illuminated

Strangely, my Bible Study Conductor spoke to me about how sometimes when witnessing someone would ask a question, and he would recall an answer that he had forgotten he knew, and how it must have been the Holy Spirit taking him over.
"Holy Spirit" in WT terms aka cult personality. Creepy.
I just watched a video on Youtube with Steve Hassan. He was at an exJW event/film review answering questions from ex members. He did confirm Jehovah's Witnesses (cult members in general) have dissociative personality disorders--cult personality versus the natural/real personality.
http://youtu.be/MduiLRExRyc
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JW's - lack of knowledge of their own beliefs
by Illuminated in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
why are so many jehovah's witnesses unaware of their own beliefs.

.

i would imagine the repetitive meetings, studies and door to door knocking would firmly root them in their beliefs.. yet, i've observed they either back out of challenging questions at times, or share a link to jay w org.. .
Illuminated

Control is not about the teachings, it is about the concept that they are a special people. I think the GB are becoming more aware of that, and so have cut back on heavy doctrine, and now push more the idea that they are the chosen ones, and there are no one else on earth like JWs. The doctrine are basically just filler to make the religion look legitimate.
Reminds me of how pedophiles lure and confuse the victim by giving them attention and making them feel special, except the WTS does it on a larger scale. It's pretty sick.
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JWs versus Scientology
by millie210 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i have been discussing scientology with a friend who is reading dianetics by l. ron hubbard.. both groups are considered cults by many.. both have a policy of shunning members who leave.. so in your opinion, what are the similarities you find between them?.

what are the differences?.

is one group "worse"?.
Illuminated

Outside looking in, they're both creepy.
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Tips for bringing out the real personality
by Illuminated in
1. jw
2. experiences
what can we do as non jw members or ex jw's to bring out the natural personality of an indoctrinated jw?.

it's mentioned by cult experts and former jw's to keep things light and stay clear of direct cult info.

it's difficult for me to do this as i generally like to dive into the deeper waters of emotions, thoughts, subjects and connect on that level.
Illuminated

What can we do as non JW members or ex JW's to bring out the natural personality of an indoctrinated JW?
It's mentioned by cult experts and former JW's to keep things light and stay clear of direct cult info. It's difficult for me to do this as I generally like to dive into the deeper waters of emotions, thoughts, subjects and connect on that level. Yet, I've continued to do so anyway.
As a non Witness, I'm currently shunned. It hurts. Yet, what's important more so is I cannot relay information and connect in a way that would cause a ripple. I do sense my emails are being read.
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JW's - lack of knowledge of their own beliefs
by Illuminated in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
why are so many jehovah's witnesses unaware of their own beliefs.

.

i would imagine the repetitive meetings, studies and door to door knocking would firmly root them in their beliefs.. yet, i've observed they either back out of challenging questions at times, or share a link to jay w org.. .
Illuminated

Thank you everyone for sharing all of your perspectives!
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JW.org and recruitment
by Illuminated in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
do you believe the marketing of jay w org will convert more people or help inactive ones remain indoctrinated?
Illuminated

The biggest wt 'witness ever' was given in August 2014, based entirely on the blue square. and not one new recruit has so far showed up in our hall.
Lol, needed a good laugh.
I saw a post by a JW woman on a social network sight stating it made history.
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JW.org and recruitment
by Illuminated in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
do you believe the marketing of jay w org will convert more people or help inactive ones remain indoctrinated?
Illuminated

However, in my search for God, I am not looking for a company or a logo.
That's a great point. I find it interesting how corporate the appearance of the logo is.