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  hello!!

  by chin in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

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  hi, let talks anything, everything .... ;-).

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  Dansk

  Welcome, Chin. Are you an exJW or still in Watchtower? Where do you reside (country)?

  Dansk
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  "apostate" columnist

  by kgfreeperson in

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  sylvester brown began his first column in the st. louis post-dispatch talking about his experience going door to door as a very young jw.

  later in the column he indicated he is no longer a jw.

  will jws be subjected to disfellowshipping if they admit to reading his column?

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  Dansk

  Will JWs be subjected to disfellowshipping if they admit to reading his column?

  Not worried are you, kgf?

  Dansk
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  Are observers allowed on Judicial Committee ? (WT Letter)

  by caspian in

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  according to the pay attention book no observers are allowed.

  how ever please note what a paragraph from the following letter says.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------.

  to all circuit and district overseers may 6 2002 page 3 para 2.. assisting elders with judicial matters.. while it is best for a travelling overseer not to serve on judicial committees, he can assist by being an advisor when needed.

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  Dansk

  Rebel,

  Why play to their rules? Seriously, unless you are prepared to repent - and I don't know what it is you're accused of, nor is it any of my business - and promise to abide by their rules you'll be DF'd. If it were me I'd tell them I no longer recognise their authority.

  You mentioned in another post that you had a solicitor friend who was prepared to help you. What does he think? This has got to be a contravention of your human rights, not being allowed to have witnesses or legal counsel. If you attend the meeting it suggests you agree to their terms. DON'T GO!

  Love,

  Dansk - a Rebel supporter
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  DOES SATAN EXIST?

  by Dansk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there are a couple of ideas on this.

  one is that satan is a corruption of the egyptian god set who murdered the god osiris and was avenged by horus.. the second is found in the religion of the persian zoroaster, who professed the good god ahura mazda who was at war with the evil god angra mainyu, later known as arhiman.

  the zoroastrian concept of hell is almost a mirror image of the jewish hell, and zoroaster's religion even had the concept of a purgatory, as well as a last judgement.

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  Dansk

  I just received this from a good friend who studies ancient Bible history. I find it extremely interesting so thought I'd share:

  "Ha-Satan seems to have originally meant something like "the contender" and was associated with God (perhaps in the idea of Israel's struggle with God when he changed his name from Jacob). In the earliest period Yahweh was a divinity like most in the Ancient Near East who was neither Good nor Evil - but rather a force to be reckoned with. Traces of this time remain (eg "I am a jealous God"). At this time Satan was not especially demonic.
  
  Satan seems to have become a devil as a result of the "problem of evil" associated with an omnipotent God who is also "all good" and "all loving". As the Greeks observed - either he is all good and all loving, and because evil exists, he is not omnipotent - or he is all powerful, but not all loving and all good. The demonic nature of Satan grew with Iranian influence. They were the first to suggest two "gods" (i.e. Ahuru) - one all good and loving (Ahuru Mazda = Wise Lord) and the other "Satanic" (i.e. Ahuru Mainyu = Ahriman). It is generally accepted that Satan's metamorphosis into a devil began at this time. He has certainly been useful in the Manichaean heresy of
  Christianity and has been useful in persecuting Christians of other sects than one's own (or of pagans and non- Christians)."

  Dansk
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  Made from Monkeys or from Dirt

  by Satanus in

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  the bible states mankind was made by god from plain old dirt.

  science however, has shown that we are in the nieghborhood of 98% monkey (chimpanzee).

  was god lazy, in that he didn't start from scratch in making people, but used animal parts to assemble the human body?

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  Alan,

  As usual, a really great post. So much food for thought. Thanks for taking the time out to compose it.

  Dansk
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  The Watchtower & the cigarette company

  by expatbrit in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i: some relevant quotes from watchtower publications

  1: the position of the watchtower as regards smoking

  *** jv 181 13 recognized by our conduct ***.

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  Dansk

  EPB,

  Look in your PM box!

  Thanks,

  Dansk
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  The Watchtower & the cigarette company

  by expatbrit in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i: some relevant quotes from watchtower publications

  1: the position of the watchtower as regards smoking

  *** jv 181 13 recognized by our conduct ***.

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  Dansk

  Well done, expat!

  Do I feel another U.N.-type scandal being made public? Where's Stephen Bates?

  Dansk
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  Made from Monkeys or from Dirt

  by Satanus in

  1. jw
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  the bible states mankind was made by god from plain old dirt.

  science however, has shown that we are in the nieghborhood of 98% monkey (chimpanzee).

  was god lazy, in that he didn't start from scratch in making people, but used animal parts to assemble the human body?

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  Dansk

  Anyone can create a god out of nothing; where do you think they all came from?

  LOL! Now THAT'S something I definitely agree with!

  Nice one, Abaddon!

  Dansk
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  Made from Monkeys or from Dirt

  by Satanus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the bible states mankind was made by god from plain old dirt.

  science however, has shown that we are in the nieghborhood of 98% monkey (chimpanzee).

  was god lazy, in that he didn't start from scratch in making people, but used animal parts to assemble the human body?

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  Dansk

  Hi Abaddon,

  Glad you can see I don't disagree with what you, or scientists, say but that I'm more cautious over any "evidence" presented.

  It's kind of you to ask me to pm you should I require an answer over anything. I may well take you up on that one day. For the moment, I'd like to ask - and I'm throwing this open - at one time there was absolutely nothing! I liken this to a black canvas (not a blank canvas - though, in essence, that's what it is also) and then, suddenly, something happens. Some have said this was the 'Big Bang'. If so, how did a big bang come from NOTHING?

  This isn't meant as a pro-creationist question, whereupon I believe God obviously must have started it. I'm not saying that at all. I'm genuinely interested how one answers how something comes out of nothing.

  Dansk
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  Made from Monkeys or from Dirt

  by Satanus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the bible states mankind was made by god from plain old dirt.

  science however, has shown that we are in the nieghborhood of 98% monkey (chimpanzee).

  was god lazy, in that he didn't start from scratch in making people, but used animal parts to assemble the human body?

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  Dansk

  Abaddon,

  The link works now!

  Dansk