Cassi,
IMO all death is sensless no matter if its by Gods command or mans.
You should be addressing that remark to Yeru, instead of me. Afterall, it's him who wears the military uniform. Do you know how to spell P-R-E-J-U-D-I-C-E ?
hi folks!
i realize that the subject that i've chosen here can indeed arouse the emotions, but i believe that most here have control of their emotions and can therefore be reasonable while discussing this topic.
some of you believe in god and the bible, and some of you don't; but, whatever your station in life is i'm sure that you won't mind expressing your personal opinion.
Cassi,
IMO all death is sensless no matter if its by Gods command or mans.
You should be addressing that remark to Yeru, instead of me. Afterall, it's him who wears the military uniform. Do you know how to spell P-R-E-J-U-D-I-C-E ?
hi folks!
i realize that the subject that i've chosen here can indeed arouse the emotions, but i believe that most here have control of their emotions and can therefore be reasonable while discussing this topic.
some of you believe in god and the bible, and some of you don't; but, whatever your station in life is i'm sure that you won't mind expressing your personal opinion.
As to being a true Christian, Yeru, when my life is over I will be able to say that I haven't shed the blood of another man. Will you be able to say the same? Those Israelites who took part in shedding the blood of other humans did so at God's command. Can you say that God has commanded YOU to shed human blood?
Schizm
according to the dubs, and other faiths, adam was created with no defects of any kind.
he was created with no sin.
then adam sinned.
Abaddon,
Would you mind posting a larger picture of your avatar? As small as it is, it's hard to make out. I assume that to be a photo of you and your girlfriend (or wife?)
Thanks in advance, if you can do this.
Schizm
according to the dubs, and other faiths, adam was created with no defects of any kind.
he was created with no sin.
then adam sinned.
according to the dubs, and other faiths, adam was created with no defects of any kind.
he was created with no sin.
then adam sinned.
hi folks!
i realize that the subject that i've chosen here can indeed arouse the emotions, but i believe that most here have control of their emotions and can therefore be reasonable while discussing this topic.
some of you believe in god and the bible, and some of you don't; but, whatever your station in life is i'm sure that you won't mind expressing your personal opinion.
Thanks to all who participated in this thread in order to make your true feelings known. Even you, Yeru.
Schizm
according to the dubs, and other faiths, adam was created with no defects of any kind.
he was created with no sin.
then adam sinned.
Yawn.
according to the dubs, and other faiths, adam was created with no defects of any kind.
he was created with no sin.
then adam sinned.
Farkel, my friendly foe:
There's just no way that you can be pleased short of someone agreeing with you, is there?
Why hell-fire man, you don't even agree with a dictionary's definition of the word "reply"!
View Reply Edit Delete View IP ____________________________________________________________________ Action :: Jump to: :: New Topic :: ReplyDo you recognize the above? Each and every time a person supplies an "answer" to someone else's challenge it is referred to as a "reply". Out of courtesy I had left a message for you saying that I would be back to reply to what you'd said. But instead of appreciating my act of courtesy , you chose instead to be picky, even making a huge issue out of the simple word "reply". If this is the demeanor you exhibit when it comes to such a minor issue as this, others have to wonder if you can be reasoned with at all ... no matter what point is being discussed. If I may be so frank, you strike me as being an idiot. That's not meant in the sense of calling you a name, it's simply the impression I get of you when I read your essays and argumentation on just about every subject you discuss. So while your "words of wisdom" might sound impressive to a number of those who post here, other than the times when you make a "funny" I rarely am impressed with much that you have to say. You really leave me with no logical reason for continuing this discussion. I'm sure that you'll have some sort of a comeback to my having said all this; afterall, you do have to look out for your image. Why hell-fire, what would it look like if the "Farkel" himself actually failed to meet the challenge of someone else saying that his ideas are idiotic? So, have at it my friendly foe. At all costs, maintain that "image"! That's what it's all about with you, isn't it? I mean like, "hell-fire man"! No wonder you can't get anyone to debate with you (which pretty much leaves you talking to yourself ... other than those times when people are swooning over your magnificent sayings and giving you pats on the back). Since YOU refuse to agree with a dictionary's definition of a simple word, I have no reason to discuss ANYTHING with you. You're obviously not a man that can be reasoned with. Schizm
according to the dubs, and other faiths, adam was created with no defects of any kind.
he was created with no sin.
then adam sinned.
Farkel, my friendly friend:
Name one parent who would kill their own child if one of the child's friends did something evil.
God made the sacrifice, it was men who "killed" his son. And I wouldn't necessarily characterize Adam's misdeed as being "evil". Extremely foolish, yes, but not "evil".
As a result God is, in effect killing the victims of the crime: us.
Scenario: Farkel fails to train his child to not play out in the street. As a result the child is run over by a car and dies. Who is to blame for the child's death? Is it God, or FARKEL? Of course, you'll undoubtedly take the blame for it yourself. Likewise, the blame for the deaths of all Adam's children falls upon his own head, not that of God's. It was Adam that failed as a father, and his children had to suffer because of it. "Unfair," you say? Is it also "unfair" that your child had to die due to YOUR negligence?
To make matters worse, in a real ransom situation, when the ransom is paid, the payor gets back what was taken. Christ paid the debt 2,000 years ago and God hasn't done shit. Human perfection [lasting life] was lost in Eden and human perfection [lasting life] should have been returned with the death of Jesus
Then the fact that all except those who will rule with Christ won't attain "lasting life" until the end of the millennium must seem all the more unjust to you. While we generally think of it as being *customary* that "the payor gets back what was taken" rather quickly, does that mean that it's NOT a "ransom" if more time is taken to settle the account? If so, then WHO made such a rule?
More later.
Schizm
according to the dubs, and other faiths, adam was created with no defects of any kind.
he was created with no sin.
then adam sinned.
The question this thread poses is:
What 'exactly' changed in Adam when he sinned?
Shamus said:
His weiner started to work....
Quit playing around, Shamus!