Posts by pronomono

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As I move further away from theWT.....

by Viviane in

i've, over the years, looked into many religions.

obviously, from those that have seen me post here, i've become an atheist simply because i couldn't find any reason to believe in god.

recently, though, over the past few months, a new change has started.

pronomono

Digging into things also helps avoid the niggling "OMG, what if they are right?!" worries that are soon swept away with learning and information.

This is the stage I'm at right now. I'm on the verge of detesting religion, or denominations at least. I don't believe in saying that I'm of this denomination or this (within Christianity). To me, a Christian is a Christian. Who cares about differences of interpretation as long as you don't force your interpretation on others (which JWs and lots of so-called Christians try to do). I'm still on the fence about whether Christianity is right, or if Christians have simply created a false dilemma. Or if Christians are wrong, but a God does exist. Or if God does exist, but not as we envision or in the nature that we think. Or if I truly care about the answers to any of these thoughts. For now, I'm just learning and taking in information, taking the time to digest it without making immediate conclusions. I have plenty of time to decide, hopefully...

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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pronomono

I doubt there will be a "test your faith" announcement. At least at our hall, we are encouraged to invite everyone. This includes bible studies, family, and friends - not just JW publishers and higher rank. In our area this is being advertised as a public event. Unless we have the wrong idea about it, this seems more like a PR stunt to me to make everyone feel warm and fuzzy inside.

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JW making music videos now?

by adjusted knowledge in

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i'm not sure if this is new since it is hard to keep up with the ever changing jw.

it is morphing so much.

i went to jw.org tv video for november and around 53 or 54 minutes into the broadcast the gb guy introduce a music video called "we won't forget you".

pronomono

Excellent v2, Androb.

So far, the first two attempts at the GB making a music video has failed. Listening to them, I can't help but think "How is this any different from all the other Christian music that is out there?" Answer: In all the other Christian music, you'll at least find some talent.

In all fairness, even though this isn't my style of music, these are probably could be classified as really good first cuts that could be made better by a qualified sound engineer, but the volunteer workers aren't doing it justice.

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JW making music videos now?

by adjusted knowledge in

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friends

i'm not sure if this is new since it is hard to keep up with the ever changing jw.

it is morphing so much.

i went to jw.org tv video for november and around 53 or 54 minutes into the broadcast the gb guy introduce a music video called "we won't forget you".

pronomono

punkofnice: or maybe "I Like Book Bags" to the tune of Sir Mix-a-Lot's smash hit "I Like Big Butts"

I like book bags and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a sister walks in with an itty bitty waist
And a plump book bag in your face
You get sprung, wanna pull out your tough
'Cause you notice that bag was stuffed
Deep with the 'zines she's carry'n
I'm hooked and I can't stop staring
Oh baby, I wanna preach with you
And get your number
(Family worship night)
Baby, can I get with you?
(Family worship night) My homeboys tried to warn me
But that book bag you got makes me so horny

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newbie to site looking for fellow DF's and DA's (or anyone else who has good conversation to offer)

by eyefell4it2 in

i am new to the site.

i started perusing it this weekend and wish i had found it 10 years ago when i was on my way out.

anyways, long story short, was df'd for you guessed it...fornication or "loose conduct" even though i had been a pioneer with an elder father, grandfather and uncle and no previous issues.

pronomono

Welcome. We're glad to have you with us. Like you, I wish I had found this sight years ago. Things would be a lot different if I had. Still I have a lot to be thankful for. My time as a JW wasn't all bad. Even though I technically am still one, I'm struggling to find a way out and am coming to terms with the conditional love of the friends.

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Jonestown David Koresh at Waco and Heavens gate...any thoughts on death cults!

by Witness 007 in

these three men led there flock to mass suicide.

i listened to the last recording of jim jones and it was chilling.

people cheered and clapped when he told them it was the end...one older black woman protests saying "the children have a right to live" but she is shouted down by the other members saying "if they take our kids they will grow up to be dummies.

pronomono

If you have Netflix, watch "Jonestown: Paradise Lost". It was a really good docudrama on this, mostly a re-enactment, but had some original audio/video recordings. The sad thing is, his wife was totally against the koolaid, but ones the children were forced to drink the kool-aid, she was so distraught that she drank it herself because she couldn't live with herself anymore. It was amazing to see how far people would let themselves go to believe what they wanted, until I woke up and realized I was almost in the same situation with the JWs and blindly following men, although I never reached a life/death situation. The docudrama was very moving to me.

Also, "I Escaped A Cult" on FLDS and a few others was good too.

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November 8th Special Meeting

by Chris Tann in

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friends

anyone have any leaks on this three hour meeting we are having early november?.

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pronomono

I haven't heard a thing about this at my hall. I've missed quite a few meetings but our COBE usually calls to let us know whats up. Guess we're finally moving on from being in the "in" crowd. Are they splitting this up across Saturday/Sunday like they did last year? With the first Saturday morning live and the following three a recorded replay?

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NEW LEVY FORCED ON WITNESSES?

by The Searcher in

have i missed a previous posting on this?

sorry if this is old news.. just heard from someone whose meeting is on a tuesday evening; basically, 3 per publisher is to be levied to "replace" the kh insurance payment.

the money will be used for damage, vandalism, & disasters, but also to protect any of the societies' entities.. .

pronomono

Is this only in the UK, or have there been ramblings of such in the US too?

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Co's visit - fall 2014 - old references to Russell

by berrygerry in

i'm presently listening to the co's visit of fall 2014.. he is referencing many references to russell's beliefs of the 1800's and 1903.. sadly, i did not record these comments from his talk.. anyone else have these comments?.

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pronomono

I missed our CO visit tonight. I may make it up somewhere else to save face, and see if we have the same. Remember anything noteworthy that was said?

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Yesterday's a.m. shepherding call

by wheelwithinwheel in

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painting an empty apartment knock at the door

ron the elder doing not-at-homes.

comments on: well how you doing dave?

pronomono

Marked. There really are some great classics here at JWN. I hate I'm over a decade behind the times.