Posts by pronomono

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Cheers! Here's to lost opportunities and forgotten memories.

by pronomono in

it's 1am and i'm halfway through a glass of brandy.

i've been cleaning out the closet (literally), and reminiscing about old times and decisions i didn't make.

it's times like these i regret being brought up as a witness the most.

pronomono

We all truly do have a lot to be thankful for.

This morning was better than the other. The results of cleaning out the closet, past memories and relics, were picked up with the usual household garbage and are on their way to the landfill. It's hard to move on when you have pictures, notes, and other items with memories attached close to your heart. Getting rid of these items, for me, was a necessary step in moving on..... and it feels good. I wound up with a big yard trash garbage bag full of junk and a lot less clutter.

This has really been an encouraging thread for me to read. Thank you all for making it what it is.

On a side note, my best friend called me out on being apostate the other night while we were talking about the new light. I brought up the question with these new changes, how can we know for sure what else we believe needs to be changed and how it will be interesting to see what new changes come about. He jokingly said that I was losing my faith and would soon be apostate. It was a joke, but he probably doesn't realize how close he is to the truth.

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Cheers! Here's to lost opportunities and forgotten memories.

by pronomono in

it's 1am and i'm halfway through a glass of brandy.

i've been cleaning out the closet (literally), and reminiscing about old times and decisions i didn't make.

it's times like these i regret being brought up as a witness the most.

pronomono

Thanks for the kind words and encouragement all. I'm sorry to hear about your sister, LoisLane. My thoughts are with you.

I really do have a lot to be thankful for. I know my thoughts and feelings aren't unique. Looking over previous posts is encouraging seeing what you all have done to cope. It's just different when you are the one fighting the emotions and mental anguish. As has been said before by others one foot in and one foot out the door, it's a lose-lose situation. But by staying in the organization, you lose more. Learning to cope with the immediate losses and moving on from past regrets is the toughest part for me.

Thanks, all.

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Cheers! Here's to lost opportunities and forgotten memories.

by pronomono in

it's 1am and i'm halfway through a glass of brandy.

i've been cleaning out the closet (literally), and reminiscing about old times and decisions i didn't make.

it's times like these i regret being brought up as a witness the most.

pronomono

Thanks, Simon. I needed that. The first two verses hit the nail on the head. It's time for a change in outlook.

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Cheers! Here's to lost opportunities and forgotten memories.

by pronomono in

it's 1am and i'm halfway through a glass of brandy.

i've been cleaning out the closet (literally), and reminiscing about old times and decisions i didn't make.

it's times like these i regret being brought up as a witness the most.

pronomono

It's 1am and I'm halfway through a glass of brandy. I've been cleaning out the closet (literally), and reminiscing about old times and decisions I didn't make. It's times like these I regret being brought up as a witness the most. I love my wife, but she's not the one I'd have chosen if it wasn't for my faith. Looking through old school albums, seeing my best high school "girl" friend and now seeing her 10 years later on FB, I wish that I had taken that leap, forsaken my faith for love. It would have been worth it for her. But alas, I'm stuck in the here and now. Bottoms up. Here's to love lost and missed opportunities thanks to the WTBTS. Love you all.

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second study article July 15th 2013

by inbetween in

last weekend congos around the world studied the second artcile of the famous wt 15th july.. it dealt with the prohecy in matthew 13 about the weeds and the wheat.. while they claim, that the gathering in the storehouse took place after 1914, the gathering to the kingdom of heaven will be right before armageddon.

what they did not mention, was when the resurrection of already dead anointed will happen.

why some of them shine brightly in the kingdom, while others are still on earth ?.

pronomono

Ah. The weeds and the wheat. The JW excuse that says there were alway anointed, we just don't know who they were because of the wheat.

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JW.org FAQ - a new video on "Are Only Jehovah's Witnesses going to be saved?"

by RayPublisher in

jw.org faq trickery #1 - are only jehovah's witnesses going to be saved?.

from the description:.

if you have been associated for any length of time with the jehovah's witnesses you know that they believe they are the only true religion and the only ones that will be saved before the war of armageddon.

pronomono

When I was more "in" than "half-way out", I never truly believed this. And my uber-spiritual best friend confirmed last week that he doesn't believe this either. There are others with the right heart condition that fully believe they are on the right path and are serving God whole-heartedly. I am fully confident that if there is a God, that he looks on their efforts with a happy heart, even if some aspects of their worship are wrong based on misconceptions. No religion has it right. Not even us-them JWs, hence the new light.

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Are your Ready for Sunday's WT...1914...

by Legacy in

jw
friends

to all who are still active...& those who are not...... is everyone ready for wt for sunday....1914....is everyone ready to see the friends faces, that will pretend all is well.

but their minds will be racing.

i started the article...talk about confusing...but maybe on purpose only a few in the hall will be able to break it down.

pronomono

The further you read the more confusing it gets. For example, look at these quotes.

Pg 8, Par 19: "Finally, we examined why Jesus’ arrival to appoint the faithful slave over all his belongings did not occur in 1919 but will take place during the great tribulation."

Pg 23, Par 12: "In 1919, a time of spiritual revival, Jesus selected capable anointed brothers from among them to be the faithful and discreet slave and appointed them over his domestics."

First, they say it happened (previous literature). Then they say it didn't happen (new light). And then a few articles later they say it did happen. Looking at the articles as a whole, I THINK they are trying to say that there is a dual fulfillment, one in 1919 and a future fulfillment during the great tribulation. I find no scriptural basis for this other than reading between the confusing lines.

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Lurkers/faders in the US - a heads up on next week's service meeting (Warwick HQ project to be discussed)

by cedars in

hi folks.

atlantis has very kindly let me see a copy of the aug 21, 2013 letter to all bodies of elders in the united states.. they are being instructed to re-organize the service meeting for the week commencing september 2nd (next week) to include a special recruitment talk to attract skilled volunteer workers for the new warwick hq.. an interesting feature of the letter is its comparison of the project with nehemiah's rebuilding of the walls of jerusalem.

considering the relocation of hq is financially motivated more than anything, the analogy is more than a little bewildering.. here is a scan of the opening comments of the two-page outline, to be given in the next local needs item.... .

pronomono

I couldn't go if I wanted to. I'd have to lie on the application. The questions are just way too deep.

1) Have you watched movies containing violence, imorality, or pornography in the last year? Yes, yes, and yes.
2) Has your service time been low? If so, explain why? Yes, I don't care.
3) Do you believe we are full of it? Yes.

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Annual Meeting tie in program - Bans children from attending

by Quarterback in

this was announced at our congrgation meeting.

only, baptised, active witnesses are invited to attend this special program.

pronomono

@Gingerbread, No we'll be sneaking to the bathroom to post the live updates. ;)

Our hall still has the Aug 7th BOE letter posted where tickets have been discontinued so that active, baptised adults and the unbaptized/baptized children can attend. They are recommending that people carpool and only attend their scheduled session.

Who attends must be determined on a location by location basis depending on how many KHs have a fast enough internet connection multiplied by how many seats are available and then divided out by how many of those seats they can fill by bros/sisters in the area over the four scheduled sessions.

If there are more brothers and sisters than seats, someone is getting left out.....excuse me......blessed.

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Are your Ready for Sunday's WT...1914...

by Legacy in

jw
friends

to all who are still active...& those who are not...... is everyone ready for wt for sunday....1914....is everyone ready to see the friends faces, that will pretend all is well.

but their minds will be racing.

i started the article...talk about confusing...but maybe on purpose only a few in the hall will be able to break it down.

pronomono

For any witness that is a "real" student of the Bible, this is huge. I like how they subtly put in the closing paragraphs that they have in fact NOT been appointed over Christ's belongings. This should bring the question to the forefront of all JWs minds "Are they really even the faithful and discreet slave?" Look over the next article in how they try to back pedal and prove that they are.

This article is a great excuse for not going out in service. Why? I DON"T KNOW WHAT WE BELIEVE ANYMORE!

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