Terry:
Great post as usual. The reason we are all here on this forum is because we are no longer deceived! Just playing out the 'string' until the family sees ttatt!
eyeuse2badub
the definition of insanity boils down to expecting success by repeating actions which cause failure.. .
jehovah's witnesses are expected to prove their loyalty to the organization by believing and practicing what they are told.. does this lead to success or failure?.
ask the thousands of loyal believers who were led to expect armageddon in 1914, 1925, 1975!.
Terry:
Great post as usual. The reason we are all here on this forum is because we are no longer deceived! Just playing out the 'string' until the family sees ttatt!
eyeuse2badub
Some religious leaders are concerned, but most are confused. Just saying!
eyeuse2badub
we've all heard the old saying:.
any job worth doing is worth doing right the first time.. but, this would not seem to apply in the only organization on earth claiming to be solely guided by jehovah!.
in the watchtower society, the governing body gathers in a board room and prays, discusses and votes.. presumably the prayer invokes holy spirit of jehovah.
I thought I was in the "TRUTH" (tm), but I was really in the "GUESS" (nulite tm). Just saying!
eyeuse2badub
i asked my mother( still very much active).
she said books made from '86 and before would not be online.
so we both looked at her physical revelation book and it was made in 88 so it should be there.
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we've all heard the old saying:.
any job worth doing is worth doing right the first time.. but, this would not seem to apply in the only organization on earth claiming to be solely guided by jehovah!.
in the watchtower society, the governing body gathers in a board room and prays, discusses and votes.. presumably the prayer invokes holy spirit of jehovah.
Spot on Terry;
You have articulated, pretty much verbatim, the discussion I had with my, still active, JW wife about 5 years ago. I asked her "How can we glorify God when we preach things that are not TRUTH?"
I also went through the Vietnam War fiasco in the late 60's. Did no prison time but was sentenced to 2 years hospital work and 5 years probation. I lived in the LA area at the time and many of the brothers were starting to receive hospital sentences down there.
I have been a JW since I was 4yo and am now 67. Went inactive about 5 years ago but checked out mentally after 1995 generation change. Many of my JW friends are "concerned" about me not being active any longer. When they try to appeal to me by saying, "But Steve, you were raised in the TRUTH (tm)." I just reply: "No, I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness." Just saying!
eyeuse2badub
i have been noticing in recent threads that people have been observing that the zeal has been waning among r+f jws.
i have observed that most zealous, die hards have gone to foreign lands, or foreign language congregations, leaving the others in the stagnant english congregations.
when you think of it, if you cared at all about bringing people into the cult, you probably would be preaching where it is fertile, the foreign field.
AlphaMan--couldn't agree more. Pick a date, tie it to some ridiculous "Bible" chronology multiplication formula with "overlapping" numbers, throw a dart at the calendar, get all JW's hyped up BUT don't be too specific. JW's NEED a date for 7 to 8 million non-JW's to be bird meat.
eyeuse2badub
hi ; we got a text from one of our children today .
her and her brother are basically are disowning us .
we haven't gone to meetings for a while .
Nothing SCREAMS CULT like shunning family, friends or former members of an organization just because the leadership says so. When I was an elder, I never df'ed anyone just because I thought it was too cult like. Just saying!
eyeuse2badub
nelson mandela has passed on.
he was a symbol of hope and peace to many.
has his life and achievements meant anything personal to members of jwn?.
Sounds like most posters here would not agree with my wife who thinks that Nelson Mandela would have been better off if he had become a JW like his first wife.
Just a small comparison I thought of; Nelson Mandela came out of prison after 27 years with forgiveness and reconciliation in mind. Joe Rutherford came out of prison after only 18 months with revenge in mind. Just saying!
eyeuse2badub
i haven't seen the 2014 yearbook on the jw site yet.
i'm looking to see if the number of partakers has increased again (as it has for many years now).
anyone have a scan of it yet?.
The number of partakers did not significantly decrease for over 40 years, from 1970-2010. But the number of partakers has increased in the past 4-5 years. Just 'replacements' though. Maybe it's just a case of "overlapping" partakers. Just saying!
eyeuse2badub
i am just watching my neighbours across the road putting up christmas lights while their children run around bursting with excitement.
i am feeling all christmassy now.
can't wait for my daughter to come home from uni next weekend so we can go and buy a tree from the garden centre.
It's a great time of the year! Although, as JW's we are taught to look at only the negative things that happen during this time of the year. That is truly sad to look at the negative. I find most people to be friendlier and in a better mood. I love this time of year. Sorry WTBTS, I don't see the negative.
Just saying.
eyeuse2badub