i will have plenty of "snark" to post later on, but please indulge me while i get this out of my system..... suppose you are the leaders...yes, the leaders...there are only 7 of you...for the one true religion in all the universe.. jehovah the god of the whole universe speaks to you, you alone, out of 7 billion+ people on teh planet.. you have an opportunity, thanks to the advancements in technology, to speak to 750,000 of your followers "live", and another 750,000 or so within 24 hours.. 1.5 million people!
hanging on your every word!.
this is the first time in history you can simultaneously, or nearly simultaneously, address so many of your adherents.. what message are you going to present for this special occasion?.
Super JW's must have been really disappointed. It was an empty cup meeting again. No substance. Sammy spent his time scolding the bethel drones for being late and Tony (did you notice his mullet haircut?) spent his time spewing his opinion on tight pants, spanx, and colorful socks. To me, it was just another ho hum, your dumb waste of time. God where do they get this stuff from?
just sayong!
eyeuse2badub
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Did anyone else notice Tony's mullet hair cut or was it just me? My 'still-in'wife noticed. Who counsels him on grooming He must not be getting 'any' at home so talking dirty turns him on I guess.
just saying!
eyeuse2badub
so, how many times have we heard this expression (or a variation of it):.
"jehovah's spirit seems to be blocked here in the congregation...perhaps he is bringing something to light...etc".
it seems that the org often uses this expression, and links it with the "fact" that god wont bless a cong as much,(or at all) if there is "stuff" or "sins" being carried out.. so, why is it then that the cong i am in is experiencing its best years of activity in all aspects?
Hey notsurewheretogo,
I was an elder for nearly 25 years always sort of KNOWING that the religion that my mother chose for us was not the troof. Being raised in the religion, I just became absorbed in it through osmosis!
My wife was unfaithful to me on several occasions during our 45 years of marriage (still married to her). As I look back now, I don't really blame her for looking for some excitement and/or escape from the drudgery of being a JW elder's wife. Our life was all work for the borg and very little fun with our family. The troof was more important to me that my marriage/wife and I gave "it" a lot more time and attention.
When I finally, 100 percent realized and fully accepted TTATT, I decided to have a little "fun" myself. I had an affair with a fellow employee for several years, smoked cigars, gambled a bit, used bad language, watched "R" rated movies all while serving as an elder. Our congregation, at least according to our CO and other elders, absolutely flourished. LOL! I was a very popular and influencial elder in our congregation and circuit. Since I confessed (on my own), got removed (not df'ed) the congregation has gone down hill somewhat from a statistical viewpoint. WHAT!
So much for holy spirit exposing wrongdoing in the congregation. Sadly, I really went stupidly wild in my rebellion against the repression that I had volunteered for. (To my credit though, I never wore "tight pants".) Been out and inactive for over 4 years now. Still not df'ed just quietly fading into the the woodwork. I'm content with my life and even though my wife (she forgave me for my temporary insanity) is still in, she sees a much happier,more caring person who has time for his family and friends. I'm now a man living life (happily married for 48 years) without the restraints of the WTBTS.
just saying
eyeuse2badub
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oh! Is this the same magazine that also said in 1969 that 'it is a fact that you will never grow old in this system of things"? LOL
just asking
eyeuse2badub
tonights book study in part is about jesus throwing out the merchants and money lenders in the temple... how do they manage to tally that up with asking for funds for all their various projects?
it seems hardly a meeting goes by without some kind of money plea?
don't they realise that they are doing the same thing that jesus got so angry about and threw out of the temple?
The "Draw Close to Jehovah" book? Doesn't reading the Bible make us feel closer to jehober? It does me when I read the OT about the genecide that jehober ordered. when I read about the stoning to death of a wrong doer, when I read how women were regarded and treated in Israel, when I read of how jehober gave the land, cities, orchards and posessions of other to the Israelites, and how the babies were cut out of the bellies of their mothers because jehober said so.
Gives you a warm feeling right?
just saying
eyeuse2badub
on oct. 22, eight brothers were released from prison in turkmenistan by presidential amnesty.
(see 2014 yearbook, p. 31) the ninth brother is still imprisoned, but it is hoped that he will be released shortly.
some were already in prison for three or more years and had been severely mistreated.
Any mention about how many hours spent building the new JW. org campus? No doubt hundreds of thousands of hours. Shouldn't those hours hve been used preaching about the kingdom of god instead of building new luxury accomodations for the biggies? If the time is so short why build when you can rent buildings already constructed? The reason is that the end is not near and the gb know it so why not take advantage of the brothers while they can!
just saying
eyeuse2badub
feeling low today.
i haven't posted for a long time (forgotten log in details = new username) i'm in a good place with my family now and have built a life outside the religion.. today i found out a good friend has gone back and got himself reinstated to be able to have contact with his elderly mother.
that is the only reason apparently.
If he's a friend, why would you keep him at a distance? Don"t be alike the dubs and have 'conditional' friends. If he's your friend then his religion should not matter. Do the right thing!
just saying
eyeuse2badub
i hope i don't come across as judgemental but having read a lot on the current child abuse cases and the different threads on here, i am left wondering why on earth a parent of an abuse victim would go to an elder with the problem first and not straight to police?.
as a parent myself i know that if anything like that happend to my child (this applies to when i was still an active jw as well as now) i would not hesitate in going to the authorities as soon as i found out, it wouldn't of crossed mine or my husbands mind to go to an elder.
maybe after we had reported it but definitely never as the first port of call.
You shouldn't even have to ask that question. "Protect the org.", is first and foremost among dubs. When elders hear about a possible child abuse case, their instructions are to call the Legal Department of the WTBTS first. I've made several of those calls (in the presence of another elder)and one of the first things that we were asked was, "Who knows about this?"
just saying
eyeuse2badub
here's a quote from a health care change agent, which i think suits the wts very well.. no matter how innovative or entrepreneurial a firm might have been at its start, once it is has been in existence for some time and has an established place in the social economy, its goal in life is to persist.
it leaves the world of innovation, often loses its purpose, and exists solely to exist, i.e., to cover its costs.
often this is a reflection of the corporate hierarchy, where, sadly, leaders lose their sense of providing true value to their customers, intent instead on aggrandizing their own position and preserving their status.
Just visited my cousin in Brooklyn Bethe construction officel. He's pretty important on the building projects in NYC and New Jersey. He has his own office and all. He was really complaining to me about the recent increase in the number of "overseers" being assigned to oversee each other. He said that it's getting ridiculous how many layers of "overseers" are now appointed. I guess they need to put the old DO's to work. Theocratic bureaucracy at it's finest.
just saying
eyeuse2badub
is it ok to spank your kids?
is it ok to discipline them using any force?.
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My mom use to spank, beat, whip us kids because that was the way to rear children according to the Bible, or at least the JW interpretation of the Bible. There was never a mention of spanking being wrong among the dubs that I recall. So, I believe that the WTBTS is ok with whipping children. Also, the Bible encourages (in fact jehober commands) stoning wrong doers to death. Shouldn't the WTBTS be ok with that practice today? Seems a little barbaric but if it's in the Bible, JW's should be ok with it-right?
just saying
eyeuse2badub
