Posts by eyeuse2badub

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Just because something is old, does not mean it is "Special" or "Sacred" or "Valuable"

by stuckinarut2 in

a thought occurred to me that simply because something is old does not make it valuable or worthy of sacred reverence.. the bible is held up as sacred just because it is "old" and apparently preserved.. but, that does not make sense.

if in thousands of years someone finds a notebook of my scribbles or sketches that i threw away, that doesn't elevate them to "valuable status" simply because they survived.

they were thrown away because they were worthless.. or if an archaeologist finds an ancient broken bit of pottery that was used for garbage disposal, it doesn't change its status from what it once was - a garbage bin.. i guess what i am trying to ask is, why is it that we as humans give value to writings just because they are old?.

eyeuse2badub

The fundamentalist reasoning that the bible's age makes it special and from god is laughable. True, the bible is very old and it shows. Sh*t contained in much of the bible is so unbelievable, fanciful, offensive, macabre, and grotesque. It contains too many stories of fuk'ed up, immoral men that were considered 'god's friends', "faithful men of old". Women are pretty much and afterthought in bible mythology. Sure it has some words of wisdom sprinkled in also but "even a blind squirrel finds and acorn once in awhile".

I now consider the bible Hebrew mythology and nothing more. Oh and isn't Satan old?

just saying!

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Southern California USA Congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses On High Alert

by JW GoneBad in

circuit overseers, elders, ministerial servants, pioneers and rank & file are stressed out over an ex-jw (kevin) who has visited nearly 20 congregations (orange county) and has high-jacked the opening prayers and done some effective witnessing before he is escorted to the back door.

and everything is caught on video!.

kevin is also visiting numerous jw cart locations from the los angeles area to orange county and giving a most effective wiitness at each location and they're all on video.

eyeuse2badub

I totally agree with Simon's take on this type of 'shitty, stupid, irrational' behavior. There is never a justification, IMHO, for a mentally stable adult to interrupt and basically harass people in their place of worship. Also, by harassing the 'coffee cart' tenders demonstrates a certain lack of respect, humanity, and dignity.

While I'm extremely happy to no longer be a part of the wtbts organization, I do believe that most individual JW's are basically very nice people that are caught up in a cult like influence. Direct frontal attacks, such as this guy Kevin is using only reinforces their 'bunker' mentality and makes them dig in their heals!

My advice to Kevin--you need help!

just saying!

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The new personality

by longgone in

i've been thinking about the changes we make within ourselves after leaving the wts cult.

i'm not referring to how we spend our time now that we actually have some, but who we have become, or working to be?.

the gb carries on and on about "stripping off the old personality and putting on the new one.

eyeuse2badub

I definitely 'stripped off the old personality'--the one I developed as a life long jw. Got rid of the superior attitude, the judgmental viewpoints, the 'holier than thou' attitude. I stopped drinking the wt cool-aid, stopped smoking the wt smoke screen, and stopped my drug addiction to the crack (pot), 'feel good' wt drug of everlasting life in a Paradise earth with my very own pet panda and lion.

I put on the 'new personality' of being the person I was born to be. No more FOG to interfere with living a good life. I'm a kinder, gentler, and more genuine human. I'm a better husband, because I now have time for my wife. No more fu*king busy work of always preparing meeting parts, assembly parts, public talks, elders meetings, sheep herding calls, kh cleaning, CO week crap,circuit assembly days, district conventions, field service, family study. Whew! I'm also , a better father and grandfather, for all the afore mentioned reasons.

Yes the 'new personality' that I have put on truly is the 'best way of life'.

just saying!

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Apostasy endorsed in this yesterday's Watchtower Study

by doubtfull1799 in

“there may be occasions when it would be good for us to reconsider a choice or decision.

it could be when the prevailing circumstances change.

jehovah altered his decision at times when circumstances changed.

eyeuse2badub

Well I think it's safe to say that most of us here have already adjusted our faulty decision (getting baptized) based on new and accurate information. Interestingly, have mentioned this to my, still-in, wife so many, many times. If wt can adjust there thinking and teachings, based on new information (aka-new light) why is it that forcefully require members to shun those individual members who use the same reasoning?

She was sweating after the wt meeting yesterday when she saw it in print. Changing your decisions can be a very good thing--so sayeth the wt!

just saying!

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Lets be honest, not a little leery of the resurrected ones????

by James Mixon in

jw
friends

maybe i have watched too many zombie movies but i would sleep with one eye open, inquire to see what is your favored menu,do you sleep walk, are your body parts functioning properly (i would hate to shake your hand and it fall off).

your wife never married after 10 years and now you are back, can you perform in the marriage bed?

?it would be hard for me to sleep at nights with someone that have been dead for over one year sleeping next to me.

eyeuse2badub

Smiddy

Yea the purpose of marriage was "to multiply and become many". So once the resurrection occurs and jehober, in his exquisite display of love for mankind, resurrects everyone that died before Armageddon, the friggin earth will be full. No need for "multiplying and becoming many". No need for marriage, no need for sex. Hell---we'll be in Paradise bro.

just saying!

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Quick question can a monisterial servant conduct the watchower

by poopie in

jw
friends

hello.

eyeuse2badub

How hard can it be? Read a printed question from the wt magazine and then call on a person who is frantically waving their hand in the air so that the person can then read the printed "answer" from the wt magazine followed by everyone then nodding their heads in approval. Do not deviate from the printed material in the wt magazine. Scold any who dare exceed the 30 second time limit per comment. Do not exceed the 60 minute indoctrination period (aka watchtower study).

Done, a 12 year old could conduct!

just saying!

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I want to know what celebrations JWs don't consider pagan?

by Chook in

i could only think of weddings and wedding anniversaries .

eyeuse2badub

If it's a fun and a happy occasion, it's must be pagan--so sayeth the wt.

just saying!

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Newest Watchtower Silicon Valley land grab?

by Balaamsass2 in

just heard from a silicon valley elder yesterday that a number of local congregations are being dissolved and combined between belmont and palo alto, ca.

on the san francisco peninsula.

can anyone verify this?.

eyeuse2badub

It certainly looks like a true reversal of philosophy for wt. It used to be "Build and they will come".

Now it's "Sell for they have left".

just saying!

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Never give up!

by stuckinarut2 in

i just wanted to share a quick thread to remind us all to never give up hope that our loved ones who are still mentally trapped in the org may one day wake up.. when i first starting waking up i never thought my wife would also awake.

i have always loved and respected her ability to think and reason, but i assumed that the hold of the organisation would always have its grip on her.. but slowly, and with patience, i shared some things i had learned, and the results have been amazing!.

my dear wife, who posts here under the name "unstuck" is so fully awake along with me.

eyeuse2badub

I'm still waiting for my wife to Awake! so thanks. However, I do think that I have made some significant headway. She is no longer the 'go to meeting and service' Nazi she once was. It doesn't take too much persuasion to get her to go see a "R" rated movie if it gets good reviews.

I agree that it takes a lot of patience to help a mate who has only know the jw way to wake up and see things as they really are. But by sharing small things, little at a time, you may see the wall of defense start eroding.

I think that the most significant thing is that she has seen me transfer from being an uptight, always worried, seldom happy, constantly busy with 'theocratic' activities, no fun elder, circuit assembly speaker, life time jw to now being a much happier, not too serious, content, fun loving, having time for my hobbies, non critical of others, non judgmental regular human being.

just saying!

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Can the dead hear?

by AmyWatson916 in

the "what does the bible really teach?

" book says we cannot speak to the dead (page 64) and that the dead do not hear (page 58) but on page 68 the book has jesus talking to a dead man and the dead man apparently hearing and responding.

the same thing happens on page 69 when peter talks to a dead woman and the dead woman apparently hears and responds.

eyeuse2badub

I don't think the dead can hear but I do think they can speak. Doesn't it seem like the gb hears Russell, Rutherford, Knorr, and mad Freddy talking to them from the grave. I think they can hear them saying,

"Keep up the phony bullsh*t religion--it's a great gig. Oh, and sorry guys that we didn't prophecy that the damn internet would ruin our printing empire!"

just saying!