Posts by eyeuse2badub

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How do they get away with "New Light"?

by moreconfusedthanever in

one thing that bothers me greatly is the fact that they can change their policies and beliefs and just say its "new light" and no one bats an eyelid.. there are many scriptures such as isaiah 40:8 "the word of god will last to time indefinite.

" or hebrews 6:18 "it is impossible for god to lie".

if he is "spirit directing" the borg then there should be no need for new light..

eyeuse2badub

I have had this very discussion many times with my wife and mother in law since I have successfully faded and of course they always come back to me with the "company line" in Proverbs 4:8 which we all know is bs.

So this is how I have tried to reason with them:

I have no problem with the FACT that the wtbts (or any other organization) comes up with new understandings and/or teachings, especially when the shelf life of some of their 'old' understandings expire. The real problem is that the wtbts labels ALL of their teachings and doctrines "the truth" and since (by the very definition of truth) "the truth" cannot and does not ever change, labeling wtbts teachings "the truth" is a serious misnomer. So while it is not necessarily wrong to change a teaching or understanding when new information comes to light, it is very wrong for the wtbts to sanctimoniously and piously label their dogma "the truth" when in fact, it is only their best guess! Knowing the truth of this fact about "the truth" really does set one free!

just saying!

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Strip off the old personality

by eyeuse2badub in

yesterday’s watchtower talked about how by becoming a jw it enabled “worldly” people to ‘strip off the old personality’ and make really significantly good changes in their life.. paragraph named 4 individuals (anonymous names of course and probably embellished tales)) sakura, ribeiro, stephen, and hans.

their lives changed for the good because they found god or because they became jw’s---right?.

so on the way home from this wt meeting, my wife commented to me how wonderful our brotherhood is and how it helps people who would otherwise be ‘lost’ n this world.

eyeuse2badub

Yesterday’s Watchtower talked about how by becoming a jw it enabled “worldly” people to ‘strip off the old personality’ and make really significantly good changes in their life.

Paragraph named 4 individuals (anonymous names of course and probably embellished tales)) Sakura, Ribeiro, Stephen, and Hans. Their lives changed for the good because they found god or because they became jw’s---right?

So on the way home from this wt meeting, my wife commented to me how wonderful our brotherhood is and how it helps people who would otherwise be ‘lost’ n this world. I listened and I agreed that it is certainly nice to hear about someone who is able to change their life for the better. I then mentioned to her that you have to realize that these types of success stories are not unique to jw’s. All religions and other organizations, such as AA, have the same types of experiences. She went silent but I could see that she heard what I said.

just saying!

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Is it better to have a false hope than have no hope?

by sinboi in

just got the news.

a very close classmate of mine met an accident and died last nite.... just 4 months after i da'd from the borg.. if i am still in, i wouldn't be so sad.

he has the hope of resurrection.. but now that i am out, i realise that resurrection in paradise is all bullshit.. so what's next?

eyeuse2badub

When I was a child, I hoped that Santa Claus would bring me gifts for Christmas--and he did! At Easter I hoped that the Easter Bunny would bring candy--an she did! When I put my baby tooth under the pillow, I hoped that the Tooth Fairy would leave me some money--and they did!

When I grew up and learned the truth about Santa, The Bunny, and The Fairy, it didn't shatter my world! So what I'm saying is that your parents and/or other authoritative figures teach/tell you things that are just not true to give us a feeling of happiness. When we see the truth of the matter it shouldn't have a major impact on our lives. It's just what it is, a happy concept to make us look forward to something good.

just saying!

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How Many Witnesses Would Really Take Blood?

by minimus in

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friends

up until the very end, my mother refused blood.

it didn't matter if it was a blurred line or not, the bible says "no blood"!

i wonder if she was in the minority, in her thinking.

eyeuse2badub

I routinely 'give blood' at least 4-5 times a year. It's when I go to my doctor. So do most jw's when they have several vials of blood drawn and sent to some laboratory to be analyzed and checked to determine their health especially when looking for a specific marker in their blood. So it's okay to 'donate' blood when it's going to be used (analyzed in a lab) to help the medical profession determine if a faithful jw has some medical condition that may be treated and prevent their death?

But if death is staring a faithful jw in the face and administering blood id the only alternative the medical profession has to save their life, blood suddenly becomes sacred?

just saying!

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Many Witnesses are just plain tired out!

by UnshackleTheChains in

i believe that many witnesses are tired out or at least tiring out.

i know....... because i am tired out!.

imagine going to college for 20 years not knowing when college is finished.

eyeuse2badub

They are friggin' exhausted. Hearing the same old bs meeting after meeting after meeting. Going to the same doors week after week after week. Hell, the most exhausting thing is just saying the word jehovah over and over and over will wear you out!

just saying!

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Watchtower illogic

by Vanderhoven7 in

there are a number of things i find that defy logic when it come to watchtower religion.

here is a list...please feel free to add/subtract from it.

a. blood prohibitions: .

eyeuse2badub

That jehober is a loving god!

That jehober protects his people!

That jehober exists!

just saying!

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Did you leave the JW RECENTLY? Really? Recently? WTF were you thinking?

by The Real Edward Gentry in

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friends

not to be overly harsh...but if you just left, what the hell were you thinking?

between 1995 and now, you never did an internet search of "jehovahs-witness" or "watchtower"?

good god.

eyeuse2badub

To Phizzy

Ditto and amen brother!

just saying!

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Barred from entering kh

by poopie in

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friends

a friend of mine called last night we will call him tom.

he is df now for 2 yrs for associating with a a df person non relative.

anyway he arrived at the meeting this week and was informed by 3 elders that he was no longer welcomed at the hall.apparently he was caught greeting someone in the parking lot after meeting.

eyeuse2badub

Come to the "house of jehober" ----unless you are a sinner!

However it sound like you didn't get the whole story!

just saying!

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October 1, 1914 -- October 1, 2017

by Alfred in

“october 1, 1914, on taking his place at the breakfast table in the brooklyn bethel dining-room, he in a strong voice denoting conviction announced: “the gentile times have ended!” “ – watchtower july 15, 1950 page 216 paragraph 1. .

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eyeuse2badub

Russell made a lot of bat shit crazy comments in his lifetime and he passed his lunacy on to those who followed him. Makes me ill to think that at one time I believed his crap!

just saying!

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When God takes a day off!

by eyeuse2badub in

it’s really a bitch when god takes a day off.

he’s supposed to be watching over all things-except when he doesn’t and he can control any situation-except when he doesn’t.. so he gets all the credit for the good things that are and that happen due to his “dynamic energy”.

it must be tiring because he obviously takes days off.

eyeuse2badub

venus

I think God is enjoying this post also as He gives freedom to humans to blame or even to deny His existence.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men (or a silent god) to do nothing."

Edmund Burke

just saying!