Posts by crinklestein

8

My 11 month ordeal is paying dividends...

by _Atlas in

well i was on a mission.

when this friend on mine started wondering about my virtual disappearance from meetings.

i decided to shed some light on her worn out eyes.

crinklestein

Another to add to the list:
Why do they say that you can only EARN your salvation by performing good works when the theif on the cross next to Jesus earned his by simply professing his faith?

Why do they say that it is wrong to rely upon your own understandings of the Bible when they openly admit in the Proclaimers book that the found of their cult reread the Bible with an open mind and no preconcieved notions and relied upon his own understandings of what it said?

Why do they say things (like holidays) that have unholy, pagan or spiritistic origins are forever deemed as being demonic regardless of the current face they put on it? Why do they say this about holidays when it is so obvious that the WTS has unholy, spiritistic beginings? Bad origins regardless of how nice it is now doesn't change the fact that it was evil when it started so this would have to include the WTS. (Have her investigate Russel and Ritherford's teachings and how they were into numerology and astrology. Have her investigate Russel's involvement with the Freemasons.

7

IF SHUNNING IS RIGHT, THEN WHY DOES JEHOVAH....................

by vitty in

and jesus continually speak to satan and his demons.

there are many account in the old and new testiment where they talk to satan.. in the account of job, when jehovah and the angels where having a "meeting" satan walk right to the front and spoke to jehovah.

he didnt go and tell him to sit at the back of the hall,and he didnt tell no one not to listen to such an evil apostate, he addressed his accusations.

crinklestein

JW's would simply say that it's ok for God to talk to demons because there is no chance of Him being corrupted by their ideas and morals.

4

Jesus being a drunkard and sabath breaker

by crinklestein in

i have been having more arguments with an old witness friend of mine who has turned into my arch enemy because i chose to be with a woman that he was trying to convert.

anyway, as part of his argument against me he said something to the effect of "if you claim to follow jesus then you should know you're just following a man who was a drunkard and a sabath.

breaker.

crinklestein

Well really, how different are they from the Pharisees anyway? They might as well go the full nine and deny Christ died a sinless man. I don't know. I only know that this was not the teaching when I was in it and I don't know if this has changed recently.

63

I photographed a ghost! See pics!

by Sirona in

at least i think it might be a ghost .

here is the story: hub and i went to bowness on windermere for a holiday last week.

we had a great time.

crinklestein

Sorry, all I see is a shadow in a graveyard full of shadows. There is nothing more out of the ordinary about that shadow than all the others.

4

Jesus being a drunkard and sabath breaker

by crinklestein in

i have been having more arguments with an old witness friend of mine who has turned into my arch enemy because i chose to be with a woman that he was trying to convert.

anyway, as part of his argument against me he said something to the effect of "if you claim to follow jesus then you should know you're just following a man who was a drunkard and a sabath.

breaker.

crinklestein

I have been having more arguments with an old witness friend of mine who has turned into my arch enemy because I chose to be with a woman that he was trying to convert. Anyway, as part of his argument against me he said something to the effect of "If you claim to follow Jesus then you should know you're just following a man who was a drunkard and a sabath. breaker. WHAT?!

Is this part of their twisted NEW LIGHT? That Jesus actually died a sinful man? Or is this just his fucked up thinking.

12

Crazy JW Sister

by sandy in

my sister will not allow my nieces to go to the amusement park with me this weekend if my disfellowshipped niece (other sister's 20 yr. old daughter) comes along.. my family is aware that i have my doubts and complaints against the org and that i am living in sin with my boyfriend, and they still talk to me.

not that i am complaining.

i am grateful.. but i had to stick up for my df'ed niece today.

crinklestein

It's only because there hasn't been any official declaration of your DF'ing. Their actions are SOOO guided by the judgements of the elders and as long as they say you haven't been DF'd then you are still ok to hang out with. Fucking idiots.

19

We're not Suitable!

by Gill in

my husband and myself used to be witnesses, but not for quite a long while now.

every last member of both our families are witnesses so i guess we're the proverbial black sheep, but we haven't been disfellowshiped or have me disassociated, just drifted quietly away.. my husbands grandfather, who is ninety-seven now, suffered a stroke a year ago.

he spent several months in hospital.

crinklestein

You will find that this behavior is very prevelant. It's better to hang out with non witnesses than with witnesses in bad standing. What the hell sense does that make? Anyway, yes this is a very sad story. I just hope that justice is served and when they are old they are treated just as bad. Then while they are wasting away wondering why they have been forsaken they will be aware of the evils they have done.

24

Do You Feel A Spiritual Void?

by minimus in

jw
friends

is there a "need" on your part to regain some form of spirtuality?

at this point in time, do you not want to hear anything about god, the bible, jesus, buddah, etc.?????

are you still "searching"?

crinklestein

I don't feel the need to be part of a religious organization but I do feel spiritual. After I left I just weeded through all the JW bullshit and kept everything else. I discovered that there is no need to goto church, no need to make a public display of faith and no need to appease men and women who are in the same boat that you are. No one has any control over my belief system except for me. The way I look at it is if the theif on the cross next to Jesus can recieve salvation simply by professing his faith then why can't I? If the thief was saved when he did absolutley nothing to earn it then what is everyone worrying about? It's obvious that you cannot EARN your faith. It is given free to those who accept it. If you to perform works to earn your faith then what was the point of Jesus dying?

33

busted by a fake evergreen tree

by cab1000 in

jw
friends

my wife and i have not been to a meeting for well over a year.

we are not disfellowshipped, but would be if we admitted to the elders what we've been up to, mainly smoking.

we was both born and raised in the "truth".

crinklestein

That is the perfect way to look at it. It's their problem, not yours. You are an independant person with free will so do what you feel is correct for your life. If they have a problem with it then screw em. Ask them what chance you have of them changing their lifestyle because of you not agreeing with it. Then, after they say there is no chance in hell of that happening, ask them why you should change to their will.

166

Could This Be the Most Repellent Watchtower ....Ever?

by metatron in

jw
friends

you'll be getting the aug. 1 watchtower soon.

on it's rear cover, it has the following article:.

"the branch office of jehovah's witnesses in nigeria recently received a letter that, in part.

crinklestein

Rockland, Ma? I used to live in Greenfield and Shelburne Falls, MA. Do you know anyone from there?

And since you obviously have a firm grasp on what is going on in this religion why are you still a member and why are you still helping those that insult you?