spoke to pc and dj. subsequently met both. they were very close to how i had pictured them.
dj has a fierce regional accent and laughs while she talks requiring close listening attention.
i talked to one, and man, the voice just didnt match up to the person i chat with online!!!
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spoke to pc and dj. subsequently met both. they were very close to how i had pictured them.
dj has a fierce regional accent and laughs while she talks requiring close listening attention.
this is a draft of a letter to a dear friend - what do you think?.
dear xxxxx - .
i just spent two weeks writing, editing, and writing again, what i intended as a brief letter to you regarding our conversation two weeks past.
thanks for sharing that with us. it was a wonderful letter.
it reminded me a lot of my father who also took a stand against wts on conscience.
i have often thought that jws have just stopped thinking for themselves and turned over all responsibility for any discernment to the wts.
what a mistake.
may the journey ahead for you be full of God's blessing.
best wishes, nowisee
after reading and responding recently to a post about eating pork and clean and unclean meats, and also a few about newfound freedoms and pleasures that some enjoy now that they are out of the jws, i got to wondering if there is anything like that on the flip side of the coin.
in other words, despite you leaving the wts, is there anything you still believe that they taught, even though you left or were forced out, and no longer believe the rest of the jw doctrine?.
i was never a jw, but i was raised in a rather similar group called the worldwide church of god, many of the controls, strictures, and abuses that i saw as a child there, i see posted about here-though they are different, they are also the same.
i don't think i will ever salute the flag.
hello folks,.
when i started to have serious doubts about witnessdom a few years ago i embarked on an investigation which catapulted me into, what i have come to call, the "ecstasy of insight" and the "agony of doubt.
" i remember going to an out-of-the-way library one morning to read crisis of conscience.
frankie --
well that'll be the day!!
hello folks,.
when i started to have serious doubts about witnessdom a few years ago i embarked on an investigation which catapulted me into, what i have come to call, the "ecstasy of insight" and the "agony of doubt.
" i remember going to an out-of-the-way library one morning to read crisis of conscience.
raised jw.
i remember the day as a teen when my father came home from work in the 60's distraught, crying, saying the latest wt flip-flop in doctrine could not possibly be right according to scripture. this was the beginning of a huge spiritual crisis in my family. my only frame of reference was the direction of Jehovah as understood thru fds as explained to me by local cong. particularly my father.
so who was right, my Father (wts) or my father??
if this was not the "truth" then nothing mattered. i almost got on a bus, as this lusty young teen, to go and join the girls at mustang ranch in nevada. it was either black or white, no in-between.
long story short. many revolutions, much evolution in thought over the intervening years. much reading, the usual coc, isocf and lots of others. i came to this forum a couple of years ago as a baby Christian, thinking i could share my faith and help others here.
having my new faith challenged here was quite an extraordinary experience, as again i was confronted with many questions i seemingly could not answer.
it was once again, having certainty slip away. sometimes now, i think i believe simply because i want to believe, because to my mind the preponderance of the evidence points in that direction, and because the Christian life seems to me to be the best way to live, i.e. love God, love neighbor, etc., because it definitely has made me a more loving, more honest person.
ecstasy i have never experienced. just questions and more questions.
i'm curretly taking a religion class inwhich we will explore various religions.
we had to pick a religion we were unfamiliar with.
i chose jehovah witness.. .
what i want to know is how richierich knew blondie was coming on next.
a man and his wife are awakened at 3 o'clock in the morning by a loud pounding on the door.
the man gets up and goes to the door where a drunken stranger, standing in the pouring rain, is asking for a push.
"not a chance," says the husband, "it is three o'clock in the morning.
funny -- i'll pass it along to my drinking buddies.
i just watched the handmaid's tale, adapted from margaret atwood's novel.
pretty spooky about bible-based fundamentalist government.
or read it?
saw the movie, read the book subsequently -- some time ago so details are sketchy. but yes, very scary.
i don't feel like pretending i have genuine concern to go to a local elder and ask ... so i ask you .... what is the deal with kinesiology as far as jws?
the 94 wt where they talk about it sounds generally like the answer is no.
everything i read about the origins are traced back to some chiropractor who supposedly had occult origins ... .
sort of reminds me of a sermon i heard by john mcarthur when he said that all feminism is witchcraft and all feminists are witches..
blanket statements, particularly coming from those who don't know what they are talking about, are imho dangerous and stupid..
i'll start by saying a big hello!
to everyone on the board, i wish i had known about it when i was still a teenager in the religion.
what i am curious about is the jw view on people getting therapy for mental/emotional disorders.
well, being full of rage and sorrow, many many years after i left wts, i went into therapy. the therapist was recommended by a new "worldly" friend who was a customer of my new age bookstore.
lo and behold, when i started to spill, the therapist told me she was very familiar with jws. her best friend as a child had been jw and she grew up around them. she also told me she had had SEVERAL elders come to her for therapy in confidence for problems with substance abuse (her specialty) particularly alcoholism.
this certainly rang true for me and my subsequent therapy with her was quite helpful to me.
whatever the official stance is, there are at least some who go when they need to.