Posts by friendaroonie

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the final fall of metaspy

by metaspy in

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and so it goes....

friendaroonie

800-273-8255

Suicide hotline. I keep this number in my phone not for others but for myself. I have used it many times. Im still here miraculously.

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They Really Have Imprisoned You.

by Narcissistic Supply in

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i read these heartfelt letters where people pour out their guts and its just amazing.

(as a result....i joined the xjw support group on facebook;ex-jehovah's witness recovery group 3!).

i got pulled in at the age of 44 not because i became a jeho but because my estranged wife did her best to entrap my two young girls.

can anyone decipher cora's comment on the aawa video?

by friendaroonie in

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i have asked several people what she says as th e second person to talk in th e v ery first aawa video.

it sounds to me like "they tear off armours from us.

" or they tear of arms for us.

friendaroonie

Ah. I knew it would be something obvious once I heard it. Thanks. It wa s bugging me like crazy.

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can anyone decipher cora's comment on the aawa video?

by friendaroonie in

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i have asked several people what she says as th e second person to talk in th e v ery first aawa video.

it sounds to me like "they tear off armours from us.

" or they tear of arms for us.

I have asked several people what she says as th e second person to talk in th e v ery first aawa video. It sounds to me like "they tear off armours from us." Or they tear of arms for us." Can anyone make ir out and enli th hten me?

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Peace and Security - When?

by rhodesboy in

my interpretation of gb (governing body) theology has illuminated a fate for mankind in the near future.

i invite you to read the following extracts and my analysis thereafter- theologists only please.. 1 thessalonians 5:3.

''whenever it is that they are saying: "peace and security!

friendaroonie

; I am so convinced! Where do I sign up?

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Last night the one cool elder calls me

by confusedandalone in

i figured he was going to arrange the committee and try to get me kicked out after the whole "big pile of books" labelled "take this shit".. well his call made me realize that more and more people ... elders included no longer take this religion seriously.

after he told me he heard what happened he actually laughed and said i would never expect that.

he then told me that it is apparent that i no longer want to be connected to the organization.

friendaroonie

Are these "worldly" people he is going fishing with? Hmmm. I would be really hesitant to isolate myself with someone who has an obligation as elder to disfellowship all who should be disfellowshipped. It sounds to me like some last ditch effort love bombing to me. He wants to get you back. It irks him that you can just turn your nose up to what he believes is the truth. If he was really a doubter or coming unravelled, he would step down as an elder in my opinion. I guess there are a few nonbelieving elders, but it seems like a creepy thing to do, (stay an elder while secretly being an undercover agent for the dark side.) I would trust such a person even less than a straight up believer. But, yeah, i WOULD say if you really want to go fishing with this guy cuz you like him and plan on having an ongoing and growing, mature, flourishing adult relationship with this person AND you want to go deep sea fishing, then go. But unless the above is the case don't go. It would be lousy to be stuck out at sea and trapped by a guy who is trying to re-convert you. You can't just swim home in that case.

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Ouija Board!!!

by XPeterX in

to those who don't believe in this shyt:you'd better not post here .

ok...so you ever used it?what experiences do you have?were you able to summon a demon?what did he tell you?what did you see?i'm really curious and i wanna try it!.

friendaroonie

I have spent endless hours on that thing and it never moved. And there are scientific reasons for what is spelled out by the person who is holding the planchette. Also, supposedly, you are never supposed to use the board alone. Why is that? Because, statistically, when there are two or more people holding the planchette, something like 70% of the time, one of the two people will look the other straight in the eye and say "I swear to God I am not moving it." And a large percentage of those people out of gleeful delight will take that secret to their grave.

There was a movie with Marisa Tomei and Robert Downet Jr., can't remember the name, but the premise of the movie was that the lead actress was told when she was a child playing with a Ouija board that she would fall in love with a man named Norman Goldstein or something like that. So she is getting married and having cold feet so she decides to look up this name, Norman Goldstein and somehow ends up going to Italy to meet him. Then at the end of the movie her brother, all these years later, admits to moving the planchette to spell out that name when they were kids. He just made up the name.

My point is that people, and I am one of those people, can pull those kind of tricks on their friends, and they may even keep the joke going for decades and get laugh every time the object of the joke brings it up. My brother Danny told a lie when he was 8 years old and it became a story our family loved to retell cuz it was so funny. He never wanted to spoil the fun so over 30 years later it is still told at our family get-togethers. He finally told me about 10 years and he made me swear to never tell.

The Ouija board is just fertile ground for that kind of joking around when more than one person is using it. When one person is using it, there is a whole different psychological thing going on where you start moving it on your own to just one letter, or you imagine someone in your head is telling you "W" then you start getting random thoughts that get more and more specific. Pretty soon it becomes a sort of therapy session with yourself , and secrets come out and get spelled out.

There are many kinds of Ouija boards that are more logical in how the alphabet is graphically designed, like one where the most common english letters are more in the center and less used letters like x and z are on the outsiede. this makes much more sense. When the alphabet is A-Z, you tend to hit some letters like X or z, that really don't come up in language that much, thereforte your movements are biased towards those particular rarely used letters. So naturally, subjects that start with or feature these rarely used letters come up more often than they do in real life.

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What Is The "Typical" Elder In The Organization Like Now?

by minimus in

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when i was an elder, most of the elders were pretty independent 40 to 80 year olds.

they had no issue speaking up to the circuit overseer.

i wonder what the average elder is like now.

friendaroonie

Every now and then I hear about an elder or a congregation doing things that I know are impossible. Yet they seem to be true. My pastor, who actually died recently, shot by police a month ago (a story I am not going to get into here) told me that he met some JWs in his prison ministry up in Tehachapi that asked to come to a church in the Central Valley and give a full blown talk with a question and answer bit at the end. I balked at this crazy story and he swore it was the truth. The elders came in after the church's sermon, walked straight up to the stage, (did not bow their heads or say amen when thye church locals were praying) gave a 20-30 minute talk followed by q and a and offered Bible studies to the entire church. They gave their contact info and invited my friend, Pastor Juan to come to their Kingdom Hall. I begged Juan to let me go with him, but I guess he never got around to going to the Kingdom Hall. The elder did mention that it was not a Watchtower arrangement and asked that they did not contact Patterson to inquire of this little project. Very strange, yet it turned out to be true.

Also, my friend's father is getting baptized as a JW. She tells me that he is allowed to do anything he wants to do as a JW: celebrate birthdays, Christmas, Father's Day, take blood transfusions, pursue his writing career (he writes science fiction book, apocalyptic science fiction books whose premise is a future that is totally different from what the Watchtower foretells. At one point, she wanted me to talk to him because I straight up accused her father of lying to her about the realities of life as a JW, but then later she recinded the offer. She says her dad is very smart and would never get involved in a group like the one I describe to her. She says, "Well, maybe you just had bad experience and maybe his experience is just a better one."

(Sigh. If only we'd never heard that one before. If only they would listen to us...Oh well, they'll be back one day saying, "If only I had listened to you and had my father exited when it was still possible. Now he is preaching to my daughter and she is going to meetings. She's dropped out of Musical Theater performing arts school and wants to get a secretarial job.."

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I think I have finally reached the point were I have to make a hard decision....

by confusedandalone in

<rant>.

i know i have been rambling alot (feel free to delete my threads if so), but it appeas i am getting to the point where i see no use in the bible.

i feel very bad about this right now.

friendaroonie

I personally see no connection between God and the Bible. It is much more plausible to me that the Bible is the result of either very evil men, or a very evil and sinister spirit. Perhaps the Bible could have actually been written by, say, the Devil, to try and make God look bad. THAT would make a lot of sense and explain a lot about what is written in the Bible. The more i read the Bible, the dumber it gets. People say to me, "Well, maybe you don't have God's spirit and that's why you can't understand it." Umm, yeah, that's what it is. Psalms 137:9, 10... and I have a problem?

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WT destroying old literature

by startingover in

i was approached by an elder about a year ago asking what i am going to do with my large collection of wt literature.

he told me the society had put word out that they were collecting old literature.

i asked him why but he couldn't give me a definite answer.

friendaroonie

very interesting