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  classification

  by Phil in

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  2. friends

  i guess i should celebrate my new classification "advancement" from "newbie" to "junior" member.

  i will pop open a bottle of champagne for dinner.

  salut.

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  Euphemism

  Hey, I didn't get a party when I became a Junior Member! *waaaah*

  Just a question for those in the know... when do I get my next promotion?
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  Furuli's New Books--Attempt to Refute COJonsson

  by ros in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just heard that the norwegian watchtower apologist, rolf furuli, who esteems himself a biblical scholar of semetic languages, has completed the first of two volumes he plans to publish on the societys chronology, assyrian, babylonian, egyptian and persian chronology compared with the chronology of the bible.. title of this first volume is: persian chronology and the length of the babylonian exile of the jews.. i hear that although carl olof jonsson is not mentioned by name, or reference made to his book "gentile times reconsidered," it is nevertheless apparent that these volumes are an attempt to refute jonssons excellent study which has exposed the watchtowers 1914 date as total folly.. .

  the book can be ordered now from furulis new personal website:.

  http://folk.uio.no/rolffu/.

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  Euphemism

  Thanks, AlanF... it's good to know you're human.

  Let me state first of all that I agree that the evidence against 607 is overwhelming; and I also agree with your interpretation of 2 Chron 36:20.

  But just to play devil's advocate here... I seem to recall reading that the Greek word translated 'until' carries the sense of 'up to', but not necessarily 'terminating at'. I don't know whether this is the case for Hebrew or not, but are you certain that the Hebrew preposition here conveys the exact same nuance as the English?
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  Teacher charged as "serial spanker"

  by happyout in

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  july 9--meet robert clark.

  the 61-year-old pervert was charged yesterday with spanking and kissing eight boys enrolled in the not-for-profit pennsylvania video workshop he ran.

  according to this upper moreland police department affidavit (in which the cops have redacted the kids' names), the retired teacher was a serial spanker who preyed on children as young as nine, often giving them whacks across their behinds as a sick birthday gift.

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  Euphemism

  Yeah, but the kissing's not.

  You make a good point, though... I guess that's why he thought he could get away with it.
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  Men: Honest answers, please, to an honest question

  by berylblue in

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  from another thread:where else does the media so vividly show females as equal .

  when i read this, i had to wonder: is there something wrong with doing so?

  portraying women as equals?

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  Euphemism

  Well now, you know, all of us who do genuinely feel that women are equal are going to be accused of being kiss-ups... ;) j/k

  I've worked for female bosses. I've had female professors; I had no problem with either. I had no problem taking advice or counsel from a sister when I was a loyal dub; there were several sisters in our cong whom I definitely respected more than most of the elders.

  On an emotional level, however... I dunno... I do believe, intellectually, that women are equal. But I was raised in a household where my father was definitely dominant; not that he was in any way violent--either physically or verbally--but he was definitely the one in charge, and he could sometimes be condescending and/or controlling with my mother. So I don't doubt that this has affected my mental archetypes to some degree.
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  Lu'au anyone

  by shotgun in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of many ways to experience a slice of island culture, the lu'au (loo-ow) is a hawaiian tradition: a feast to celebrate accomplishments, honor important people and commemorate great events.

  in old hawai'i it was a time to pay homage to ancestral gods with song, dance and offerings of food, a grand celebration that sometimes lasted for days.. .

  lu'au description taken from hawaii.com.

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  Euphemism

  Damn you, Shotgun, you actually made me find the Awake!

  Here's the text, for anyone who cares:

  Luaus I read with interest your article "Let's Have a Hawaiian Luau." (June 8, 2002) Several years ago I attended a luau in Hawaii. I felt there were strong religious and spiritistic overtones. Even if luaus today do not involve religious or spiritistic aspects, how are they different from other celebrations that have pagan origins but simply have been adopted by modern cultures to be a family fun gathering?
  
  L. F., United States
  
  "Awake!" responds: As noted there in our footnote on page 24, while the luau may at one time have had a connection with false religious practices, the word now has simply come to refer to a Hawaiian banquet. A specific gathering to which the word "luau" is applied may or may not be appropriate for a Christian to attend. As in all aspects of life, Christians should make decisions that will leave them with a clear conscience before Jehovah God. --1 Timothy 1:5,19; see also the January 8, 2000 issue of "Awake!" pages 26-7

  Basically, they completely duck the question. They acknolwedge that luaus are matter of conscience... but they don't explain why other celebrations with pagan origins are any different.

  I remember that January 8 Awake, because it moved some people on witnet to write to the Society and ask whether toasting was acceptable for Christians; they were told it was a matter of conscience. The prohibition on toasting was one of the little things that had never made sense to me, even when I was a completely loyal dub.

  Does anyone think that they're laying the groundwork for a softer policy on holidays, or at least on birthdays?
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  Argh! What to do, what to do...

  by safe4kids in

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  2. friends

  my children have a friend who lives in the neighborhood and who comes over often to hang out.

  he is a little jw boy, but he and his mom have no idea that i'm an ex.

  "gabe" has been a frequent visitor to our home for over a year now and nothing about religion has ever come up...until today.. he and my son got into a discussion about evolution vs. creation, and, as the conversation seemed to be heating up, i got involved.

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  Euphemism

  Maybe you can just stay out of it, and let your kids do the talking? He gets to count his informal witnessing time, he gets a good dose of logic from your kids, and the parents can't blame you. Everyone wins.
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  Quesions about Jehovah

  by the real truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am not writing these quetions to offend anyone, i am just seeking honest answers.

  will you jehovah's witnesses help me in finding answers?

  there is only 1 god.

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  Euphemism

  Doesn't the Bible actually say that there are "many Gods" (1 Cor 8:5)?
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  Home Schooling

  by yxl1 in

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  2. friends

  my sister-in-law's husband was raised as a jehovahs witness in north yorkshire and was educated at home by his mother along with his 5 brothers and sisters.

  i remember many years ago when it first became common knowledge, many brothers and sisters thought that this method of education was ideal for witnesses who wanted to remain separate from the world, but all the kids from our congregatation had a state education.

  i guess my question is, was home education only limited to my in-laws husbands family, or were any of you educated at home?

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  Euphemism

  I was home-schooled from jr high on. It was mainly due to health reasons, however.

  When I was in school, I had always gone ahead of the class on my own, so I had no problem with home-schooling academically. If anything, I learned a lot more than I would have at public school, in a lot less time.

  The problem I had was that since I was studying on my own, I basically set my own standards, and I set them waaaay too high, leading to frustration and low self-esteem. My parents tried to tell me that my standards were too high, but I didn't believe them. When I went to college, I realized how dumb I had been.

  Another problem was that I was isolated from the whole college application process; also, as someone else mentioned on this thread, I didn't have a formal transcript. I still got close to half my tuition covered by a scholarship; but if I'd had help from a professional guidance counselor, and had a formal transcript, I'm certain that I could have gotten a full scholarship.

  Socially, I had always been a nerd; my health problems also contributed to my social isolation. Home-school just completed the isolation. When I started college, I was completely a fish out of water.

  So for me, homeschooling was more of a necessity, rather than an option. But looking back, it was just one more way that my family isolated itself--not just from the 'world', but even from the jw community.
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  Lu'au anyone

  by shotgun in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of many ways to experience a slice of island culture, the lu'au (loo-ow) is a hawaiian tradition: a feast to celebrate accomplishments, honor important people and commemorate great events.

  in old hawai'i it was a time to pay homage to ancestral gods with song, dance and offerings of food, a grand celebration that sometimes lasted for days.. .

  lu'au description taken from hawaii.com.

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  Euphemism

  shotgun... that link is to your local harddrive. For the rest of us to be able to see it, it has to be on a website.

  (Any chance we can get attachment functionality someday, Simon?)
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  Furuli's New Books--Attempt to Refute COJonsson

  by ros in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just heard that the norwegian watchtower apologist, rolf furuli, who esteems himself a biblical scholar of semetic languages, has completed the first of two volumes he plans to publish on the societys chronology, assyrian, babylonian, egyptian and persian chronology compared with the chronology of the bible.. title of this first volume is: persian chronology and the length of the babylonian exile of the jews.. i hear that although carl olof jonsson is not mentioned by name, or reference made to his book "gentile times reconsidered," it is nevertheless apparent that these volumes are an attempt to refute jonssons excellent study which has exposed the watchtowers 1914 date as total folly.. .

  the book can be ordered now from furulis new personal website:.

  http://folk.uio.no/rolffu/.

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  Euphemism

  I'm with Analysis here, Alan... in the excerpt you give above, 2 Chron 36:20 is quoted in full:

  "So he brought up against them the king of the Chaldeans, . . . And he proceeded to burn the house of the true God and pull down the wall of Jerusalem; . . . Furthermore, he carried off those remaining from the sword captive to Babylon, and they came to be servants to him and his sons until the royalty of Persia began to reign; to fulfill Jehovah’s word by the mouth of Jeremiah, until the land had paid off its sabbaths. All the days of lying desolated it kept sabbath, to fulfill seventy years."-2 Chron. 36:17-23; compare also Daniel 9:1, 2.