Posts by Daniel1555

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An Elder Reads CoC !!

by TTATTelder in

i have recently joined the site.

i was just appointed an elder this summer.

i started discovering the ttatt (the truth about the truth) last year after putting a few things together myself concerning the leadership and then doing some research online.. i really enjoyed jwfacts.com, jwsurvey, and others.

Daniel1555

Dear TTATTelder

I am feeling with you. 4 years ago they appointed me elder. In the talk with 2 elders before the announcement was made, I told them I didn't want to become an elder as I have doubts about certain topics. They just said that everyone has some doubting points. They pushed me into it.

2 years ago I couldn't bear it longer and wrote a letter that I don't want to be an elder anymore because I don't agree with disfellowship arrangement and doubt some bible passages where Jehovah is ordering genocide. They were shocked but accepted my stepping down. I just couldn't bear it longer the hypocrisy of being an elder with feelings that so much is wrong in the organisation.

In the last 2 years I researched more (especially also about blood). It is sad though that it damaged my marriage, as my wife just can't accept that I have different religious feelings than her. I don't know where this will end but sometimes it is like walking through a minefield.

But I tell you the feeling was great the day when I was no elder anymore.

I wish you all the best and hope to keep in touch with you

Daniel

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Due to Oct 5th WT Biz Meet all meetings for that week are cancelled

by illoowy in

i was informed that due to oct 5th wt biz meet all meetings for that week are cancelled,.

i asked if the mid week meeting was also and was told yes, because of the assembly.. it seems there's an overload of theocratic alternative banqueting feasts available so.

that the regular menu at the kh is not necessary for that week.

Daniel1555

Well, thats just for us or canada.

Here in Switzerland and Germany no one even cares or knows that there will be an annual meeting and that there will be probably some news.

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Change in the "Flood"?

by Flg8ter in

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i remember hearing about a change or backpedaling in the whole thought of a global flood.

was there "new light" or a different understanding?

?.

Daniel1555

About 1 year ago I wrote them a letter showing them reasons for human life before bible chronology (cave paintings in cosquer and chauvet cave in france). The answer was that all dating methods with a pre flood age are not reliable due to the global flood.

That led me to research dating methods. I could mention a lot of scientific and biblical reasons why the flood could not have been global (just local "see scientists Pitman and Ryan with Black sea flood).

But if people want to believe in it, they say "for god nothing is impossible" and dismiss all logic reasons.

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Am I in a "cool hall " or what?

by ?me? in

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anybody else in the situation i am?

me and the wife go to a hall that is pretty "hands off".

i have not really been out in service for probably 1.5 years and my wife has went out maybe 3 times in the last year.

Daniel1555

I think it is great that your wife has such an open mind. Like that you have a lot in common and talk use your independent thinking, independent of the society.

Good luck and enjoy life.

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How did Rutherford come to Power?

by Daniel1555 in

in the last wt article it was said that 4 of the 7 directors rebelled against the decision to install rutherford as president in 1916. then it is said that they left in 1917; a cleansing happened indeed.. .

does anyone of you know the details how rutherford came to power?.

if 4 out of 7 are against it, that doesn't seem to me allright.

Daniel1555

In the last WT Article it was said that 4 of the 7 directors rebelled against the decision to install Rutherford as president in 1916. Then it is said that they left in 1917; a cleansing happened indeed.

Does anyone of you know the details how Rutherford came to power?

If 4 out of 7 are against it, that doesn't seem to me allright. One sister said in her comment at the meeting, it wasn't obviously democratic but it was "theocratic".

I wondered if she thought Jesus himself came down to the US to have Rutherford appointed.

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Fukushima

by molybdenum in

i was listening to arnie gundersun on fairewinds.org.

http://fairewinds.org/media/radio/olympic-insanity-gundersen-charge-fukushima.

explaining the situation at fukushima and how the .

Daniel1555

HHi

If God would destroy those ruining the earth he would have to destroy all of us. We all pollute the earth by eating meat (animals fed by soja from places where there was rainforest, contributing to pollution more co2 and methan into the atmosphere by the burps of the cows that we breed just to kill them) by overusing earths resources, using cars and airtravel and so on and so on.

I realised that Jws don't really care about trying to live in a way that shows respect to gods creation. Most of them think it doesn't matter how to behave in that regard as Jehovah will change it anyway after armaggeddon. They rather go to field service with their car groups, driving to each house with the car running (at least in the us, in other countries we use our legs in field service).

My opinion about fukushima

It's a huge manmade disaster. Of cause God will not step in in fukushima. Fortunately the earth is designed in a way that she can resolve huge impacts in her ecology. Wounds like that can heal That just needs time. We are talking here about ten- hundred thousands of years (nuclear waste) or even millions of years (climate).

The earth will survive. If humans will be there is another question. Maybe we will end up fossilized like dinosaurs and another species in the future would try not to make the same mistakes than us.

The earth will survive even though humanity wounds her.

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Quick Poll - How many are...

by mrhhome in

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how many here are (a) ex-jw, (b) non-jw with jw relatives or spouses, (c) inactive jw, or (d) active jw who stay in for your own reasons?.

Daniel1555

Officially active for family reasons (might change), on the inside ex

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Question: In what cases is a transfusion of whole blood or the 4 wt prohibited components the only lifesaving solution?

by Daniel1555 in

dear friends,.

my mother in law said, that bloodless medicine works in all situations.. .

i don't have a lot of medical experience.

Daniel1555

Thank you so much Scully and TD for your detailed and very helpful answers. Rawe thank you for your personal experience.

I told my mother in law that I would never let my child die (of course also not my wife and myself).She was shocked about my "apostate" view (every other mother in law would be that I care for them even though religous pressure). She told me if I pray incessantly to Jehovah about it, he will not let my child come into such a life and death situation. Hearing this I was perplex about how naive she is.

Scully, I agree with you. It also makes me feel very angry how WT is treating women. A few years ago I mentioned that to my wife, that sisters should be treated equally like brothers. Her reaction. WT does it the perfect way and I shouldn't mention such ideas. Strange, because most JWs are women.

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Question: In what cases is a transfusion of whole blood or the 4 wt prohibited components the only lifesaving solution?

by Daniel1555 in

dear friends,.

my mother in law said, that bloodless medicine works in all situations.. .

i don't have a lot of medical experience.

Daniel1555

Nonjwspouse: thank you for your explanations. I know the reasons why blood transfusions are not against bible scripture. I know the unlogic things of the blood doctrin and I believe that this put a lot of bloodguilt on the organisation. I am waiting for a good moment to talk about it to my very zealous wife and to inform her about my conscience decision that I would allow blood in a life threatening situation, especially also for our baby boy. I just recently had this discussion with my mother in law who said I should show her a situation where the wt society admits that only blood would have saved the life.

Scully: Thanks so much for your answer. I think that there might be situations during birth or c-section where a transfusion is absolutely lifesaving (as there are a lot of sisters who died during childbirth (at least some cases in the media).

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Question: In what cases is a transfusion of whole blood or the 4 wt prohibited components the only lifesaving solution?

by Daniel1555 in

dear friends,.

my mother in law said, that bloodless medicine works in all situations.. .

i don't have a lot of medical experience.

Daniel1555

Dear friends,

My mother in law said, that bloodless medicine works in all situations.

I don't have a lot of medical experience. Could you tell me, in which situations a transfusion of whole blood, red cells, white cells, platelets or plasma is absolutely necessary to save the life? (I guess massive bloodloss, leukaemia and much more)

Are there some quotes from the wt society that they admit, that sometimes a blood transfusion would be absolutely to save the life?

Thank you so much for your answer.