Posts by Daniel1555

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It came in today's mail

by Virgochik in

it came today, the dreaded envelope containing my personal copy of "return to jehovah" from my elderly, desperate mother.

it included a small note asking me to read it over and to let her know what i think.

she got it at her assembly.. firstly, i'm angry that she continues to push her religion on me, given that i stopped attending meetings over thirty years ago, and very offended that she assumes that i still want to be a witness, which is her choice of religion, not mine.

Daniel1555

Just send her a short letter, assuring her how fine and happy you are, that you love her unconditionally no matter the different religious views and feelings you both have.

I also got letters like that. Usually I write something like that:

"I have a close relationship to my heavenly father and I am happy to be able to have faith and live according to my conscience. I can't follow any longer the Watchtowers rules (for example shunning, blood, child abuse), as they are going directly against my conscience.

I wish that you find a lot of joy, love and satisfaction in your personal faith and relationship to god. Be assured that I love and respect you unconditionally."

I am sure this is much better than to write a long controversial letter.

You can't change the faith of your mother, only she can when she is ready.

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Convention Tomorrow...

by freemindfade in

kill me.... it's hard to put into words just how badly i do no want to sit through this 3 days of bull $hit.

i will appreciate any and all words of condolence, humorous, serious, or otherwise.

Daniel1555

Record the saturday afternoon interview of parents (shunning video).

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No shorts or printed T-shirts when making ready the stadium before the RC

by Powermetal4ever in

jw
friends

just heard the stupidest thing ever on this weeks service meeting: it was regarding the volunteers for cleaning the stadium before rc.

they are not allowed to wear shorts or printed t-shirts .but hey its summer!

its gonna be warm!

Daniel1555

Many years ago I attended a language course in bethel.

Everyone was dressed with suit and tie. Except me in my shorts and colourful t-shirt with don't know what slogan on it.

As they approached me if I could maybe change my outer appearance I said. "Dear brother so and so, I am very sorry, I thought it is just a language course with being able to think and learn in comfortable modest clothes. I am sorry but I just brought t-shirts with me for the whole 3 days."

I think the other brothers were jealous as they sweated the hell out of their close tied shirts during hot summer.

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Outline of Regional Convention talk (the one with the shunning interview)

by Daniel1555 in

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friends

does anyone of you have the outline of the saturday afternoon regional convention talk "symposium: imitate jesus' use of power - wise parents (mark 10:14, 16)?".

if yes, could you show / leak the outline?.

i am wondering if they are deliberately searching for a couple who made an experience with a son or daughter who left the organisation.. there was a thread a few days ago that encouraged all those attending different regional conventions to record (film or just voice) this talk / interview.. unfortunately copy, pasting the link doesn't work.. would be great to have access to different recordings, and have different shunning experiences publicly mentioned.

Daniel1555

Does anyone of you have the outline of the Saturday afternoon Regional Convention talk "Symposium: Imitate Jesus' use of power - Wise Parents (Mark 10:14, 16)?"

If yes, could you show / leak the outline?

I am wondering if they are deliberately searching for a couple who made an experience with a son or daughter who left the organisation.

There was a thread a few days ago that encouraged all those attending different regional conventions to record (film or just voice) this talk / interview.

Unfortunately copy, pasting the link doesn't work.

Would be great to have access to different recordings, and have different shunning experiences publicly mentioned. This would help to show the true intentions of this organisation.

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Zambia - President Wants to Ban JWs

by OrphanCrow in

zambia has one of the highest concentrations of jws in the world.

their influence has impacted the political climate in that country to such an extent that the president attributes low voter turnout to the jws.. http://www.lusakatimes.com/2015/06/04/deregister-jehovah-witnesses-for-promoting-voter-apathy-cosmo-mumba/.

"national revolution party leader cosmo mumba has appealed to the register of societies to force jehovah witnesses to start singing the national anthem and participate in national elections or be banned.dr mumba told prime tv in lusaka that jehovah witnesses are the ones responsible for the prevailing low voter turnout in recent elections.he said theregistrar of societies should immediately force jehovah witnesses to start voting or ban them from practising in zambia.dr mumba said singing of the national anthem is a sign of patriotism and wondered why jehovah witnesses have been allowed to disregard symbols of national pride and patriotism like the singing of the national anthem.he claimed that zambias democracy may not grow if institutions such as the jehovah witnesses are allowed to continue operating in zambia.

Daniel1555

He claimed that Zambia’s democracy may not grow if institutions such as the Jehovah Witnesses are allowed to continue operating in Zambia."
This guy speaks about "democracy" but means "dictatorship."A democracy respecting human rights tolerates groups who don't vote.

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Disturbing hidden image in w15 04/15 page 9 (Not DF image)

by campaign of hate in

could someone do me a favor and post the picture on page 9 on the above mentioned watchtower.. i'll point it out, very surprised no one else has picked up on this creepy image..

Daniel1555

I looked at it in the Watchtower.

I don't see this man... maybe I am blind.

However I think it is a strange picture. How does that fit to the article?

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Being shunned only increases my certainty that the WBT$ is a cult

by punkofnice in

well, i don't wanna rant too much but sometimes things cut you don't they.. a family member had a get together for the family, jw and non jw and of course i wasn't invited being da'd.. i understand why they couldn't invite me but it just made me think.

in normal society this wouldn't happen.

i'd have been there.. the shunning is so unnatural and damaging.

Daniel1555

You are absolutely right.

You are only a sinner in their eyes or by their standards or belief system.

Of course we all make mistakes. But "sin" is just this thing religion wants to press us in that we come running back to them.

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I want serious answers from WT leaders, possible?

by Powermetal4ever in

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friends

what would happen if i would write a physical letter to, for example, the branch office.

and ask questions about scandals like the ngo thing and other stuff?

or ask questions about wtbs economy, or ask for a annual report, which is something i would really like to read.

Daniel1555

This happened so many times. You can even see many examples of letters and answers in older posts on this site (especially if you look at those under "blood and medical").

I myself sent a few letters to the branch office. It's not worth the time and effort, unless you want to show to a relative or friend that you had a sincere quedtion and they never answered.

For some not that controversial matters I got an answer, for controversial matters they just didn't answer or told the CO or elders to care about it.

They never ever answer anonimous letters.

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Had to have a chuckle today when I saw this photo. it just sums everything up.

by joe134cd in

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links

http://www.watchtower.exposed/?p=658

Daniel1555

I am not sure if this picture is accurate.

Looks a little bit photoshopped.

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2015 Regional Convention Anthony Morris Governing Body encourages coerced baptism of unwilling children ...again

by Watchtower-Free in

this is from the last talk of the convention ......... clip 1:30 minutes longhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrej8tlyiso&feature=youtu.be.

Daniel1555

"You are ready for your drivers license, but you're not ready to dedicate your life... hmm explain that to heaven haha."

What an arrogant cult leader. Maybe he should explain to heaven why the rules about shunning and blood could be killing youngsters who dedicate their life to this organisation.