" but usually end up "enduring" whatever bad luck or choices life has stuck them with." ¶That's what really breaks my heart--as if it is the height of accountability and moral behavior to stick with every bad decision you ever made. That and the isolation.
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Generally, Witness Friends are no Prize
by metatron inin general, after nearly forty years in the "truth", i conclude that most witnesses are no prize as friends.. there are several reasons why:.
their "love" is often very conditional and qualified - sort of a "i'll be your friend as long as you count time and attend meetings" situation.. they are often so busy with theocratic busywork ( field service, meetings) that they have little time left for anything .
creative or interesting, like a real hobby.
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Home school
by Globetrotter inmy son told me the other day that he and his sister are just about the only kids at the kh their age that go to public/private schools.
almost all the other kids are home-schooled.
i was rather shocked.
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kgfreeperson
I think homeschooling is rising in popularity as much as an unwillingness to subject one's child to the dysfunctional local school as for dogmatic reasons. I know families whose children are, as a result of homeschooling, far better educated and far better able to cope with the world, than their public or private school educated cohort. But I sure as hell would worry about JW homeschooling! Uneducated people who belong to a cult which distrusts and disparages learning and evidence of intelligence indoctrinating their offspring is a fairly depressing scenario.
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Overseer Visits
by sandy inwhat the hell is the big deal about the circuit overseer's visit?
why does everyone have to drag their bible students and in active friends and family members to the meeting during that week?.
it is so lame and hypocritical.
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kgfreeperson
Heh. I try to have a large-ish party every couple of months. Otherwise I'd never get the place clean. Guess that works for me like having a CO visit. Except my guests don't point out all my faults and suggests ways to improve!
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Witnesses coming Saturday... I need HELP!!!!
by Globetrotter ini got into a rather heated discussion this morning with my unbaptised but raised jehovah's witness wife.
we discussed so many things: feb 1 watchtower article on 607 and 1914, the un, beth sarim, blood, god's mouthpiece here on earth, etc.
this was yet another attempt on my part to try to plant a seed of doubt.
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I don't know--that article from Awake seems almost in direct response to globetrotter's conversation with the elders. I really was taken aback when I read it. So I'm afraid Gary is exactly right and it will depend on whether or not globetrotter's wife will be so taken aback by the Watchtower's response that she will reconsider her position. Globetrotter doesn't need to change the Watchtower--only his wife. But I do think Gary's prediction of what advice she'll be given is dead on. I wish it were not so and I will be delighted to hear it is not so!
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the latest discussion between the wife & I
by Winston Smith :>D in.
edited to keep private in case is ever read in future by wife who escaped the borg .
pm me if interested in offering advice.
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kgfreeperson
I looks to me as if the "perfect" JW marriage is two people joined in worship of the Watchtower Society. Their only needs are supposed to be in supporting each other in being perfect JWs. It also looks to me that the strong marriages we see evidence of here on the board are miracles! I'd like to offer my abject sympathy to all you who are suffering in marriages destroyed by the Watchtower. My brief (9 year) dysfunctional marriage was not influenced, however, by any outside pressures--it was due more to my immaturity and my husband's sense that as the man in the relationship he needed to be forceful and authoritarian even though that really had nothing to do either who he was or who he married. It had something to do with who he thought a man had to be and how a man had to behave to keep himself from being henpecked (there's another phrase that is probably coming to your minds, but I don't wish to give offense :) ). Adding the Watchtower to the difficult proposition of marriage and succeeding, as Nina and Big Tex and others on this board have, is truly inspiring!
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When is the next one coming up (she asks with dread) and why are you instructed to leave literature where a passer-by can't see it?
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What Did you Plan On Doing In The New System?
by minimus inevery child and bible student was told about how wonderful the "new system" was going to be.
"and what animal do you want to have in the new system?
"......that was a very typical question.
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kgfreeperson
Part of the problem is, when you ask yourself, what would your life be like if it were just the way you want it, you may start out with non-stop sex and beer, but you recognize that if that were actually your life you'd be unhappy pretty soon (even 50 years is pretty soon if you're going to live forever!) and most of us get happiness from solving problems and helping other people (which means, of course, that other people need help). The JW paradise includes doing work apparently which, I guess, is recognizing that people need something to do. But what kind of paradise requires work? Isn't everything supposed to be perfect? What kind of work did Adam and Eve do?
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Oh, man, that's pretty obvious, isn't it. People coming back to the hall with material they've gotten from studies or others with questions; elders forwarding it to HQ; HQ going ballistic! Surely all it means is that those who stay in are more and more committed to believing whatever they are told.
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the latest discussion between the wife & I
by Winston Smith :>D in.
edited to keep private in case is ever read in future by wife who escaped the borg .
pm me if interested in offering advice.
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kgfreeperson
I didn't get here in time to read your post, Paul, but I just wanted to let you know I'm thinking of you and hoping for the best.
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Witnesses coming Saturday... I need HELP!!!!
by Globetrotter ini got into a rather heated discussion this morning with my unbaptised but raised jehovah's witness wife.
we discussed so many things: feb 1 watchtower article on 607 and 1914, the un, beth sarim, blood, god's mouthpiece here on earth, etc.
this was yet another attempt on my part to try to plant a seed of doubt.
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But that doesn't change the pressure they are likely to put on his wife. I'm wondering if conversations such as this aren't the reason that so many JWs are able to fade. Sending the faithful into this kind of discussion has got to have ramifications! I hope the ramifications this time is that there are three less JWs within the year!!