Okay. I can't stand it any more. Where do you guys teach? I wanna sign up! Failing that, where can I read what you've published. Surely not only here???
kgfreeperson
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baptism of the dead
by peacefulpete inthe cryptic words of 1 cor 15:29 have ellicited much discussion through the years.
what did the writer mean, "baptism of the dead"?
the answer may be locked up in the controversy over who wrote those words and when.
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How many "real friends" did you have in your congregation?
by JH inmost congregations have about 80 to 120 people.
out of that, how many could you consider being a "real friends"?
personally, not one of them was a "real friend".
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kgfreeperson
" You spend 40-50 hours a week working toward a common goal with these people. How many are you "real" friends with? One or two? That's about the same odds as at the KH."
While this is true, it is seldom that your employer expects you to consider the co-workers your true family and to restrict your relationships with non co-workers to a polite acquaintanceship! -
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John Dominic Crossan
by kgfreeperson ini've been listening to john dominic crossan on the radio and am fascinated.
what are your opinions of him as a biblical scholar?
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kgfreeperson
While I was buying Christmas books for my family, I bought Crossan's "In Search of Paul" for myself. I'm really enjoying it, although struggling with the poorly remembered history not very well learned almost 40 years ago!
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I choked
by Seeking Knowledge ini have done up a letter to my ex asking him to cease & desist with cramming his "religion" down our sons throat and also to stop our son from calling his wife "mom" and other issues that he's in violation of our custody order with.
it was a nice letter, i told him knock it off or we're going to mediation (in our custody agreement as well) to figure it out.
this was at the advise of my attorney.
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kgfreeperson
Hmmm. They can refuse to accept the registered letter. What is one's legal recourse if they do?
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Did anyone enjoy singing the Kingdom Melodies?
by Kimmee indid anyone actually enjoy singing the kingdom melodies at the hall?
some of them were fun to sing, some of them were corny.
my brother use to sing them loud but without any sound coming out of his mouth.
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kgfreeperson
Sure sound like regular ol' hymns to me! (I listened to the non-English versions, so I'm just reacting to what they sound like.)
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What are Y O U talking about?
by robhic inexcuse me if this has been discussed before but i've been meaning to ask.
why is the word you or your always capitalized in the nwt?
) of the quotes i've seen always capitalize the words but i've never seen another bible do this.
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kgfreeperson
Thanks for the question (and answers!) That's confused me, too.
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An Appalling Lack Of Manners & Social Graces
by Why Georgia inis it just me or are a lot of jehovahs witnesses just completely mannerless and lacking in social graces?.
examples....... they don't seem to say thank you for gifts or kindnesses.. i went to quite a few gatherings and burps and farts would happen without so much as a pardon me or excuse me.
i was even told once it's natural and there is no reason to say excuse me.. they will just stop in at your house if they are in the neighborhood and stay for however long without even calling or getting your hints that you happened to be on your way out.. i have met some very nice and polite witnesses but they are few and far between.. is my experience limited - has anyone else noticed rudeness, and a lack of manners and social graces?.
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kgfreeperson
I absolutely agree that mannerliness is unusual enough that when one runs across what used to be called a well-mannered person who isn't over sixty, you notice!
One reason, I think, is that our social lives are so different because our work lives are so all-consuming. Children are in day care, where there are rules, but children assume those rules only apply to that particular context and they don't tend to be taken visiting the way we used to be--where parents, especially mothers, explained what behavior was expected from them. So kids who are well-behaved in one context, often assume that there are no rules outside that context.
I also think that people who feel they are already doing more than they can do do not have the energy to be thoughtful toward other people (and children copy how their parents behave). In fact, if you are polite to someone's face (at the door), and then say nasty things about them as you're walking away, the children who observe that will often just skip the polite at the door part because they know what's genuine and tend to want to get right to the "troof." So it wouldn't at all surprise me if Jehovah's Witnesses who got sucked in after the crackdowns since the late seventies/early eighties would have no manners. No place to learn them. -
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Brother Michael called.....
by jellybelly inwe had a phone call yesterday, after being "inactive" for 6 years.
not having attended a meeting in 4 years, we get a call saying they are concerned that they had heard we believe in evolution.
my partner said "not necesarily believe in it, im just not discounting it at this time.
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kgfreeperson
Definitely a keeper. Nothing left for her now but to put her hands over her ears and eyes and sing a silly song. Which, unfortunately, is probably what she will do. But good for you--it is a great response.
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"Replacement doctrines" - things which JWs lie about to the interested ones
by Pole independing on the denomination of their interlocutor the witnesses often claim that their religion is free of a whole bunch of non-sensical doctrines which are so common in other religions.
oftentimes, however, it proves that they have something that i'll call "replacement doctines" - beliefs which which are difficult to figure out for the 'interested ones', but which in the long run prove to be just as bad as the stuff they disclaimed or worse.
example: in a catholic country like poland, jws often boast about the fact that they don't have the confession routine, where a person has his/her sins forgiven by a priest who acts as a representative of god.
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kgfreeperson
Are demons residing in objects part of official teaching? In other words, is AlmostAtheist's example, something that a JW might read in a Watchtower or find in a Watchtower outline for a talk? I'm trying to figure out if an obsession with demons, especially demons sneaking in on "worldly" objects is a natural extension of the paranoia fostered by the doctrine, or is it explicitly taught.
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JW ignore you for good reason
by one inthis is not an introduction to sociology, just typing without much reflection.
do you think the wt would survive if they did not shun or ignore "apostates" (or anyone who does not follow the rules), be realistic, jw org is still an small group with survival instincts..
besides ignoring, is a very tipical human trick anyway, or do you think you could be accepted in any private club you want to?
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kgfreeperson
I don't see how any high-control organization can tolerate dissention in the ranks. It makes perfect sense to me that questioners must be cast out and non-questioners "protected" from the doubters. Once Rutherford took over, JWs were doomed to cult status. I do wonder what would have become of them if Rutherford's wishes had been respected as to how the organization should proceed. I'm always surprised to find that human organizations seem to hold together better when they talk about love and "family values" but really value (and exercise control through fear of expulsion and spiritual death.