yep... Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle...
ILoveTTATT
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Anybody have ideas about the double slit experiement with particles, how they react based on a human mind observing them?
by EndofMysteries inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfpeprq7ogc.
that's just crazy, that if the particles are being monitored and data recorded, they act exactly as we 'think' they should act.
however if they are not being monitored and no way to watch them, then they act completely different and more random.
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Anybody have ideas about the double slit experiement with particles, how they react based on a human mind observing them?
by EndofMysteries inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfpeprq7ogc.
that's just crazy, that if the particles are being monitored and data recorded, they act exactly as we 'think' they should act.
however if they are not being monitored and no way to watch them, then they act completely different and more random.
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ILoveTTATT
Heisenberg uncertainty principle come into play here?
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How much money do you think WT actually makes a year ?
by cookiemaster ini know that just recently they've made billions by cashing in their real estate from brooklyn.
i also saw somewhere that only the uk branch, in a year, made 16 million pounds in profit with their stock portofolio.
my cousin worked personally for a guy in italy, who was involved in the mafia , and was a jw, and apparently he donated at a single convention more than 1 million euros(probably as a way to wash his sins).
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"How can girls guard against temptation in this sex-crazy world?"
by Apognophos inthis is from the questions from readers in the 12/15/61 watchtower.
i present it unabridged and without comment.
your own comments, however, are welcome.. "when a girl reaches the age of puberty or physical maturity, her body has developed in the matter of sex more than in the mind.
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ILoveTTATT
Why did they call P.M.S. "P.M.S."? Because "Mad Cow Disease" was already taken...
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Questions on Evolution and the Existence of God and...
by ILoveTTATT ini know this is one huge rant, but i want to put my own questions and doubts in writing.. i am a fading jw who has become agnostic... i still believe in "god" and "jesus," but i simply cannot explain to people why i believe in them.
i just do.. about the existence of god: it is an infinite regress.
"all things were created by someone"... well... who created god?
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ILoveTTATT
jgnat... I must say... GOOD ONE... wow...
The problem with me is that I have never even considered a non-JW source of information about evolution. For some reason the JW explanations made sense (and now I know why: they HIDE information, such as that E.Coli experiment).... plus, reading Dawkins would have been unthinkable about a year ago...
Now I am free (free-er?) mentally so... I will use all my critical thinking skills to find holes in this theory. So far, lots of holes have been filled very quickly.
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Saludos!!! Desde una asamblea de circuito....
by juanvazquez88 infrom monterrey, mexico..... status: ready to vomit in any moment, i cant listen another man saying: "were are imperfec, but were best that the outsiders".
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ILoveTTATT
Yeah, but I really don't understand how to even use the Spanish forum.... I have an account but I love this one. 10,000 posts vs millions?
It is also very heavily censored...
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Saludos!!! Desde una asamblea de circuito....
by juanvazquez88 infrom monterrey, mexico..... status: ready to vomit in any moment, i cant listen another man saying: "were are imperfec, but were best that the outsiders".
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ILoveTTATT
Hi Juan Vazquez... I think we spoke... I already have a website, and if you really look hard, there are many articles already written. What is missing is a centralized location. I think that you and I, and monis too, should talk about what the differences are between anglo exJW's and Latino exJW's... I think that there are some differences (such as the "paradise" carrot being waaay more attractive to third-world countries than to first-world countries)... that must be taken into consideration.
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Questions on Evolution and the Existence of God and...
by ILoveTTATT ini know this is one huge rant, but i want to put my own questions and doubts in writing.. i am a fading jw who has become agnostic... i still believe in "god" and "jesus," but i simply cannot explain to people why i believe in them.
i just do.. about the existence of god: it is an infinite regress.
"all things were created by someone"... well... who created god?
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ILoveTTATT
Ok so I am getting it...
Species A reproduces and there is a species Aa and a species Ab. Species Aa is more suited to survive the change in environment and therefore ends up surviving... Perhaps species Ab also can survive but need to move to a different place where the conditions are more favorable to its survival. This is why there are multiple species with different evolutionary paths...
Ok granted... Now for the next set of questions: The factors that make us human, have they evolved evolution itself? Have we somehow avoided or changed the nature of the game?
(I am great at math, I suck at writing... Hope someone understanda my question).
My other concern is with Intelligent Design. Something that seems designed does not necessarily mean that there was someone intelligent behind it. Case in point is snowflakes and crystal structures... No design there, it's just physical laws at work. However, a painting of a child, no matter how crude it is, clearly had a designer behinf it.
Keep in mind, my arguments come from the one-sided Watchtower viewpoint, so in all likelihood there is something I have not considered.
There are many complex structures in biology that just seem to me like they were designed; for example, the way that veins and arteries are placed in some animals to resemble a counter-current heat exchanger, instead of them being separate and losing body heat? What process in evolution explains apparent design?
Please let me know what I should read to enlighten me. I want to know both sides of the argument, and I already know that one side was cheating and lying.
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Questions on Evolution and the Existence of God and...
by ILoveTTATT ini know this is one huge rant, but i want to put my own questions and doubts in writing.. i am a fading jw who has become agnostic... i still believe in "god" and "jesus," but i simply cannot explain to people why i believe in them.
i just do.. about the existence of god: it is an infinite regress.
"all things were created by someone"... well... who created god?
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ILoveTTATT
I read the following article on Wikipedia, proving adaptation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._coli_long-term_evolution_experiment
This is an experiment that has been running since 1988... reached 50,000 generations of E.Coli. "One particularly striking adaption was the evolution of a strain of E. coli that was able to use citric acid as a carbon source in an aerobic environment".
Now, 50,000 generations of humans, according to the WT, could be overlapping to 100,000 generations of humans... LOL
50,000 generations of humans, at 30 years per generation, would be 1.5M years. THIS is why human speciation, or any large animal speciation, is not "observable"... I at one point thought, "well, if speciation is a fact, then we could potentially see it in ancient drawings of animals." Now I know how wrong that would be... human recorded history is, at most, around 20,000 years (if you count drawings in caves, not writing)... this would be only aproximately 670 human generations.... 2500 dog generations... you get the point... in all likelihood they would look exactly the same.
OK so now my question is,
Suppose a species turns into another one. Why did chimpanzees, gorillas, and other large apes "remain" in their past form, and then the intermediaries to humans died off?
If the large apes had the same circumstances as the ones that branched off and became humans, why didn't THEY die off?
I am missing something here?
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Questions on Evolution and the Existence of God and...
by ILoveTTATT ini know this is one huge rant, but i want to put my own questions and doubts in writing.. i am a fading jw who has become agnostic... i still believe in "god" and "jesus," but i simply cannot explain to people why i believe in them.
i just do.. about the existence of god: it is an infinite regress.
"all things were created by someone"... well... who created god?
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ILoveTTATT
I know this is one HUGE rant, but I want to put my own questions and doubts in writing.
I am a fading JW who has become Agnostic... I still believe in "God" and "Jesus," but I simply cannot explain to people why I believe in them. I just do.
About the existence of God: It is an infinite regress. "All things were created by someone"... well... who created God? If there IS a God, how do I know that this person is benevolent/wise?
Why do I still believe in God?
I think it has to do with the fact that I still pray, and believe that I DO get answers to my prayers. But it leads me to think, what if I felt that my prayers were not being answered? What about the billions of humans on this Earth who suffer, who need to work 6 days, 12 hours per day, to be able to have enough money to buy the Starbucks coffee I just drank? WHY??? WHAT MAKES ME SO DAMN F!CKING SPECIAL, WHY DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE!??!?! If there IS a God who is helping ME but not billions of other people, then that is one EXTREMELY PARTIAL God... what if His "blessing" turns into "displeasure"? Therefore, I cannot believe in God just based on perceived prayers answered. There must be some sort of PROOF to Him.
I don't believe that the Bible is the Word of God, it can't be. If God is omnipotent and all-wise, I would EXPECT Him to do a PERFECT book and protect it PERFECTLY. No contradictions, not even seeming contradictions. No different versions (Septuagint VS. Masoretic), no losing the originals and relying on imperfect copies to know what the book said... no failed prophecies, no nothing... no errors. Infallible should mean exactly that... no mistakes at all... The EVIDENCE is that the Bible's text was NOT protected at all... I don't know at what point it became a book used to control people, but it did.
About Evolution: I am a Chemical Engineer, with officially tested IQ's over 130, so I DO understand complicated things. BRING IT ON... I am open-minded and will accept things if they can be proven beyond reasonable doubt.
It seems logical to me to separate Evolution and Abiogenesis, as they are two different topics altogether. A lot of churches and faiths have gone completely on the "we accept Evolution, but not Abiogenesis" bandwagon. "Evolution," the way I understand it, is just changes and changes and changes until one species becomes another species...
Abiogenesis deals with the origin of life. I enjoyed reading the article on Wikipedia on it. Very easy introduction to the topic. I knew from school that Pasteur had killed the "spontaneous generation" theory. Sneaky JW's and their Creation books/articles only mentioned this side of things. It makes sense now with the current scientific knowledge that life does not generate spontaneously. No spontaneous generation means that life came from previous life.... therefore a Creator... simple enough... but it makes an infinite regress... again, being a JW, it was an easy answer for me: God is from forever, no beginning nor end. Now I know that this is black-and-white thinking. A little thinking outside the JW box, a little bit of Googling, and the scientific explanation makes sense for me: different time, different atmosphere... just the perfect situation AT THAT MOMENT for the generation of self-replicating molecules, or whatever the precursor of life was. There are a lot of holes in the theories, but just like physics, or any branch of science, investigation will yield something, eventually. CERN, for example, may yield incredible breakthroughs in Physics. Perhaps one day we'll have a "theory of everything". Perhaps one day those holes to the origin of life theories may be closed. But there is sufficient evidence for the POSSIBILITY of abiogenesis. Much better, in my humble opinion, than believing in a God who had no beginning, to close the infinite regress.
Evolution sounds logical. Adaptation has already been proven over and over. However, I see holes in the theory, and I haven't had time to investigate or I have not seen a clear answer to them:
1. If evolution says that only the best survive, and we humble humans, self-named Homo Sapiens Sapiens, are the most intelligent species on this planet, why aren't we the ONLY species? My understanding right now is that the survival of the fittest refers to the survival within the species itself. I.E. monkeys that are affected by a disease and survive it may pass their genes to the next generation of monkeys, and maybe they will be immune to that disease and have an even better chance of survival, than the monkeys who weren't strong to survive it.
2. What's next, after humans?
3. Has actual evolution, i.e. the changes accumulating sufficiently to make ANOTHER species, been observed? If so, where? I would think that the smaller the species/the faster time to reproduce, the better chances to actually observe this.
Thanks for reading my really long rant...
Thanks and have a good night!
ILTTATT