Posts by wallievase

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FuGK This Religion- Stop Ruining My Life!!!

by wallievase in

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i am sorry for the title but today just took the cake.

after not going to the meetings since august and trying to sort through this with my family, my wife today told me she wants to separate because of our differences over being a witness or not.. this is ridiculous.

so i said- how can you separate from me when the religion you whole heartedly believe says you can only separate for 3 reasons- abuse, willful non-support, or stopping her from her meeting attendance, etc.

wallievase

Thank you all for your support. I will try to keep you up to date.

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FuGK This Religion- Stop Ruining My Life!!!

by wallievase in

jw
friends

i am sorry for the title but today just took the cake.

after not going to the meetings since august and trying to sort through this with my family, my wife today told me she wants to separate because of our differences over being a witness or not.. this is ridiculous.

so i said- how can you separate from me when the religion you whole heartedly believe says you can only separate for 3 reasons- abuse, willful non-support, or stopping her from her meeting attendance, etc.

wallievase

I am sorry for the title but today just took the cake. After not going to the meetings since August and trying to sort through this with my family, my wife today told me she wants to separate because of our differences over being a witness or not.

This is ridiculous. So i said- how can you separate from me when the religion you whole heartedly believe says you can only separate for 3 reasons- abuse, willful non-support, or stopping her from her meeting attendance, etc. I clearly have not done any of those. She didnt have an answer.

I am just done with this crap and i am losing everyone around me. Somebody out there pray for me.

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Why are you treated as mentally ill if you try to leave?

by wallievase in

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i would just like to know why people are always treated like you have to be depressed or have some type of serious mental issue if you try to leave?

you cant just leave because its not for you?.

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wallievase

I would just like to know why people are always treated like you have to be depressed or have some type of serious mental issue if you try to leave? You cant just leave because its not for you?

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The Givers

by wallievase in

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i saw the film the giver tonight.

all i could think about through the whole movie was the organization.

any thoughts?.

wallievase

I saw the film The Giver tonight. All I could think about through the whole movie was the organization. Any thoughts?

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3rd Update on Fading

by wallievase in

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ok well i have updated you about the dilemma about my wife and family and more recently about the elders trying to schedule a shepherding call.. on our way back from th international convention she basically told me if i were to leave that we should go our seperate ways.. so i took a few days and thought about it.

it seems she was more mad about my waffling back and forth and going to the hall sometimes and just not making up my mind.. today i gave her a proposal- i will stop going all together unless it it an assembly or convention or memorial for her.. we will not discuss religious topics, as this is where most of our arguments have been centered around, at all.. we will support all of each others endeavors besides religious intrests.

i will talk to my family and let them know my intentions without getting into an details next month because my mother keeps calling me about it.

wallievase

Ok well i have updated you about the dilemma about my wife and family and more recently about the elders trying to schedule a shepherding call.

On our way back from th International Convention she basically told me if i were to leave that we should go our seperate ways.

So i took a few days and thought about it. It seems she was more mad about my waffling back and forth and going to the hall sometimes and just not making up my mind.

Today i gave her a proposal- I will stop going all together unless it it an assembly or convention or memorial for her.

We will not discuss religious topics, as this is where most of our arguments have been centered around, at all.

We will support all of each others endeavors besides religious intrests

I will talk to my family and let them know my intentions without getting into an details next month because my mother keeps calling me about it

We give it 1 year, if its as bad as she thinks, both of us are unhappy, alsways arguing, etc- i told her we can part ways.

Surprisingly she accepted this offer, so i will see how it goes

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Update on Fading Question

by wallievase in

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the other day i posted my delimma about dealing with family and leaving.. update: my wife came home from the hall sunday (i have now missed about 3 weeks in a row) and the elders now want to schedule a sheperding call.. should i just blow them off, or when they come over (because im sure my wife will have them over even if i decline) just tell them i cant do it right now?.

b.

wallievase

The other day i posted my delimma about dealing with family and leaving.

Update: My wife came home from the hall sunday (I have now missed about 3 weeks in a row) and the elders now want to schedule a sheperding call.

Should i just blow them off, or when they come over (because im sure my wife will have them over even if i decline) just tell them i cant do it right now?

B

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Advice on fading needed

by wallievase in

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these 2 options are before me right now-.

1. write a letter to the elders and my family, not da myself but basically saying i have too much going on in my life and am confused, so that they will stop bothering my wife and stop asking me questions all the time.

after i write the letter continue to go to the hall less and less.... 2. appease my wife.

wallievase

I have confronted her and told her i how i currently feel and its still ripping our marriage apart. I do have support outside of the hall, just not from family.

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Advice on fading needed

by wallievase in

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friends

these 2 options are before me right now-.

1. write a letter to the elders and my family, not da myself but basically saying i have too much going on in my life and am confused, so that they will stop bothering my wife and stop asking me questions all the time.

after i write the letter continue to go to the hall less and less.... 2. appease my wife.

wallievase

These 2 options are before me right now-

1. Write a letter to the elders and my family, not DA myself but basically saying i have too much going on in my life and am confused, so that they will stop bothering my wife and stop asking me questions all the time. After i write the letter continue to go to the hall less and less...

2. Appease my wife. Go to the hall each meeting even though i dont believe, go in service 5 hours a month so overall wife wont be embarassed and questioned all the time and so they will leave me alone also.

Contributing factors- Wife and her family, all born in JW's, all "uber-in". My family 70s influx witnesses. Dad and brother are elders. Always questioning.

So far i have only been missing about 2-3 meetings a month and last month was first month i didnt report service time. Wife has been really upset by everyone asking about me and her family is really pressuring her and mine has been as well. My mother would be very disappointed.

Any advice/experience would be appreciated. Thank You

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How do you mentally switch off

by joe134cd in

when i was first introducing myself to apostasy, i sincerley believed i could play both worlds.

at the time i wasn't happy been a witness, and i didn't like the people in my congregation, but i thought i could just stumble along.

with in 18 months of visiting my first apostate site, i had walked out of the kh.. what i have a hard time getting my head around are these people who can successfully play both worlds.

wallievase

I know how i do it. Every hall i read the bible throughout the entire meeting so i am not wasting my time and i am taking in the real word of God. As for other times, i try to remember that in my opinion most witnesses are captives of a concept and not bad people. Lastly i try to remember my family and how i dont want to be put in a spot where i cant talk to and deal with them

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Better than God?

by wallievase in

i still go to the hall for my wife's sake.

so i was reading the weekly bible reading and came across the great example of abraham.. abraham was always questioning jehovah/god- will you destroy the city if it has this many faithful ones... and this week in genesis 15- he asks what are you going to give me for an inheritance and later- how do i know these things are going to happen... i bring up this up to say- if the almighty god of the universe doesnt expect unquestioning obedience and blind faith, how does the gb or elders?

are they thinking they are above questions when god doesnt consider himself above questioning?

wallievase

I still go to the hall for my wife's sake. So i was reading the weekly bible reading and came across the great example of Abraham.

Abraham was always questioning Jehovah/God- Will you destroy the city if it has this many faithful ones... And this week in Genesis 15- he asks what are you going to give me for an inheritance and later- how do i know these things are going to happen..

I bring up this up to say- If the almighty God of the universe doesnt expect unquestioning obedience and blind faith, how does the GB or elders? Are they thinking they are above questions when God doesnt consider himself above questioning? And he actually doesnt need to explain anything to us and still does.

Just something to think about.