My daughter went to the university (still is - I hope this is the last year) and the members and elders of our congregation often told us that it would be best when she ended her study and start pioneering.
I told them "it ain't possible - she must finish this study, else she has to pay back an enormous amount" (finishing means she is free of debt) After I told the elders, they keep quiet to me, but they kept making remarks to my daughter.
Ironic, but after all they were right with their remarks: they where telling her that a universal study often would result in a "drift away"
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I realised that the above is not an answer on the topic.
And yes, I know a few JW's, always in pain, saying "its our hope that's let us go on."
Without hope, a lot of good things would disappear from this world.
The Bible, Isaiah 48:17 is telling us: "Thus said the LORD, Thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I am the LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go.
But the watchtower is only offering hope for a very distant future and no hope or help or profit in this life.
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How Sad
by Ariell ini have a distant cousin, 15 and in a wheel chair.
she's always saying how she can't wait until the new system comes when finally she'll be set free from her handicap and can run around with joyful glee.
it breaks my heart knowing this is never gonna happen and makes me even more angrier.
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Bye bye
by Mulan inwe are leaving on sunday for our camping trip.
we will be gone for 11 days, and i will likely not be posting.
i will be having some computer access, but probably won't have time to post, as i am filling orders usually.. we are meeting up with about 40-50 all together, many from this board, including princess and her family.
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How old were you when you got Baptised?
by El Kabong ini was 13 at the time.
i wanted to get baptised before the end came in 1975. .
back then, 13 was borderline young for baptism, but from what i've been reading, some are now getting baptised as young as 9 or 10. .
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Jourles,
I was old enough to know better: 54. (but not wise enough)
I think you can count me (us) in a way "from the preaching work."
My mother had JW friends for over 30 year and after the death of my father - she started to go to the meetings. (and was babtised when she was 80)
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What Excuses Did You Make For Being A Lousy JW?
by minimus inwhen the elders or other "mature ones" tried to assist you, they would ask questions like, "what's wrong?
why weren't you at the meeting?
or service?.......what good excuses did you give, when asked these types of questions?
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to my shame: that I am too tired, too busy with my work.
In stead of, just don't want to go.
But one of the brothers makes an exellent wine - and he only selling this wine to brothers and/or sisters.
And in the future I want to be able to buy more wine, so I have to be a "sister" until I have enough bottles in stock.....
No kidding, I am just avoiding to be df'ed.
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Do JW couples really have better relationships?
by Latin assassin from Manhattan inare jw marriages any better than the ones 'in the world' as they put it?
when they walk from door to door or mingle after a meeting they appear to be models of ideal marriages.
do you have any experiences with married couples in the 'truth'?
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As I see it, A real JW couple will put more energy in saving their marriage - even if they think it is "hopeless" After all, Jehovah hates a devorce - so they have to.
I think that the same percentage of marriages are failing.
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What if ... the Watchtower charged for books/magazines ???
by run dont walk ini've been out of the borg for awhile, so help me out on this.. am i to assume that the watchtower went from charging for magazines to a donation system, simply because of paying taxes ???
didn't jesus say "return caesar's things to caesar".
so if the watchtower would of continued charging for magazines, so they would have had to pay a little tax, they still would have made a ton of money, and alot more then the donation system pulls in.
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what's more, it seemes that voluntary donations are higher then the formerly asked amounts (in Europe)
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Did you know that all the JW buildings will survive Armageddon ??? HAHAHAHA
by run dont walk inalright, my family, just when i thought they couldn't get any stupider, then find a way to outdo themselves.. talking to them the discussion led to me saying, "if armageddon is soon, why is the watchtower building new facilities in patterson and buying all new printing presses.".
the answer, (you better be sitting down for this).
"well, the work needs to be done, and besides all those buildings will survive armageddon, and will be continued to be used.".
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Growin Up Motherless
by little witch inrecently, i responded to a thread, and reacted in , a uh, agressive manner.. .
i have been very upset over this, as many of you have, and so i wanted to try to explain myself, (which i am not good at) so bear with me.. .
my mother was killed in a car crash when i was two years old.
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Little Witch,I now understand why you reacted the way you did.
With your background, you had no other possibility.
I feel terrible sorry for you that you underwent those things.
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So, for all you fans of big fat books (like, say, Harry Potter) ...
by dedalus inwho among you is reading east of eden, oprah's book club selection?
(because, of course, reading is no fun unless there's a huge corporate media conglomerate backing you up ...).
is it just me, or do any of you think it's strange, almost disturbing, to see a bunch of people, almost entirely pre-or-post menopausal women, waving this book over their heads, screaming with the same sort of unbridled glee exhibited on, say, a drabby-housewife-makeover episode?.
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Okay, Now I have read all the comments - and am a bit confused re all the fuss.
I can’t speak for other persons.
I am not familiar with Oprah’s bookclub and I don’t watch her shows. I have seen them a few times in the paste and - for me - it is mostly a waste of time.
But when I like a person and/or admire his/her intelligence I am inclined to read a book when this person encourage me to do so. (if only to find out if my valuation meets his/hers). And I think this is what most people do or want to do.
A agree with all who says more or less : “whatever can get people reading I am all for.”
For the ability to read - and the use of it - I consider one of the biggest treasures in this world.
Dedalus, what bothered me is that you wrote:
“In fact, it's astonishing to me that a person who claims to love reading so much, and who aspires to be a writer, can so consistently and carelessly make the crude spelling and grammatical mistakes you do. Your writing online is simply appalling. Let's hope that's because you're careless and casual here, and not because your don't know any better.”
I am sure that there are big errors in my writing - due to the fact that English is not my language - but even when it was my language.
This kind of remarks remembered me at my beginning time as a JW.
Every time I was puzzled about something, they told me “that's because you don’t see the light yet - you will see when you grow in the truth” thus making it impossible to discuss what I want to know.
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Talesin, your alias came from the arthurian legend, but in the “Arrow” series from Mercedes Lackey It appears to be the name of a magic using tribe.
I am sure Mercedes Lackey read the arthurian legend as well....
Diana Gabaldon wrote “Outlander” in 1991 - and it is a great book.
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So, for all you fans of big fat books (like, say, Harry Potter) ...
by dedalus inwho among you is reading east of eden, oprah's book club selection?
(because, of course, reading is no fun unless there's a huge corporate media conglomerate backing you up ...).
is it just me, or do any of you think it's strange, almost disturbing, to see a bunch of people, almost entirely pre-or-post menopausal women, waving this book over their heads, screaming with the same sort of unbridled glee exhibited on, say, a drabby-housewife-makeover episode?.
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I will definitely get it in the library.
Thanks for mentioning (for else I should not know that I needed to read it )
Re: I have read all the Anne McCaffey books also...what can I say simple tastes -
I not only read them, I have them on my shelves and so are the books of Mercedes Lackey and lots of others (like Harry Potter).
I just love fantasy.
This comment just popped up reading the first posting - then I read Xena's comment and edited.
Now I read some of the other comments and realize that this thread is N O T going about the topic,
I will read the whole tread first and possible come back.
Oh, and reading this kind of books is not for an escape - its just fun - like traveling to other worlds.
Branda