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  Are ex-jw who are angry potential . . .

  by mystikool in

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  it seems that there is much anger on this place.

  in my country we do not understand the manifestation of hostility manifested on a public board.

  if some of these people do not calm down, they might be next terrorists in news.

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  144thousand_and_one

  Hello, Mystikool. Greetings from one mystic (Master Adept) to another.

  Mystic? I think the appropriate term is "jackass."
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  Are ex-jw who are angry potential . . .

  by mystikool in

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  it seems that there is much anger on this place.

  in my country we do not understand the manifestation of hostility manifested on a public board.

  if some of these people do not calm down, they might be next terrorists in news.

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  144thousand_and_one

  In my country we do not understand the manifestation of hostility manifested on a public board.

  In your country, do people understand that an organization that encourages the abuse and exploitation of children and the shunning of folks who receive life-saving blood transfusions is responsible for and deserving of all the hostility you're so concerned with?

  If some of these people do not calm down, they might be next terrorists in news.

  Many folks are capable of becoming terrorists, including folks who think they can fool others as to their identity and/or agenda in posting on this board. In my opinion, you're just another JW trying to defend the undefendable, by attacking others personally and attempting to discredit them by associating them with something as despicable as terrorism. Instead, why don't we focus on the WTS' despicable practice of encouraging parents to compel their children to perform uncompensated marketing services on its behalf and its encouragement of physical abuse of children (i.e. "spare the rod, spoil the child").

  Take your concerns with you back to the kingdumb hell.
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  INDEED, LET THE GAMES BEGIN

  by You Know in

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  several enemies of the watchtower have ebulliently expressed the sentiment: let the games begin.

  indeed, i too share that desire to let the games begin, so-to-speak.

  but, what exactly are we to expect when once the games commence?

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  144thousand_and_one

  According to your warped thinking the state is guilty of exploiting children because they require attendance at school. Actually, your thinking is even more demented than that. You are saying that parents have no legal right to train their children as they see fit. Are you a neo-Nazi perhaps? / You Know

  You Know,

  Your fallacious reasoning is illustrated here by your use of false analogy. First, the state does indeed require attendance at school (or home schooling), but the state never requires children to perform uncompensated labor on its behalf (i.e. marketing services, "going out in service"). Parents who heed the message of the WTS are requiring their children to perform labor (i.e. marketing functions - "going out in service"), on behalf of your manipulative cult. These situations are clearly not analogous, notwithstanding your ignorant attempt to present them as such.

  Your response reveals another weak debate tactic. If you can't win the debate, create your own modification to the opponent's stance on the issue and argue against the falsely characterized message of your opponent. Where have I ever said or implied that "parents have no legal right to train their children as they see fit?" Witness children are not being "trained," they are being exploited and abused for the benefit of a corporation cult.

  You're calling me a neo-Nazi? Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? Your cult is a bastion of fascism, replete with secret judicial committees that sit in judgment of the personal lives of cult members, elders to enforce the rules, and unjustified beatings for children.

  It's time to wake up, You Know, and smell the dogshit on your shoes.
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  INDEED, LET THE GAMES BEGIN

  by You Know in

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  several enemies of the watchtower have ebulliently expressed the sentiment: let the games begin.

  indeed, i too share that desire to let the games begin, so-to-speak.

  but, what exactly are we to expect when once the games commence?

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  144thousand_and_one

  Is that because you are at a loss for words when it comes to advocating/defending the exploitation of children that is rampant in your cult? - 144thousand_and_one
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  No, I don't think I have ever been at a loss for words. The reason I didn't respond is because your allegations are simply preposterous.

  Preposterous? You mean like all the false predictions of the end of the world that your cult has issued? I was there in 1975, our congregation even had it down to a month - October.

  Sadly, the manipulation of parents by your cult to coerce their children into performing uncompensated marketing services on behalf of the WTS is more than preposterous; it is despicable and deserving of legislative intervention on behalf of the multitudes of innocent children that are being exploited in this manner by your cult.

  The reason you've been side stepping this issue is because you don't have a good answer for it. There is no excuse for the exploitation of children that is encouraged by the WTS.

  Similarly, why is it that your cult doesn't provide child care services or other activities for children during the meetings? Meetings are simply too long and too boring to expect kids to be able to sit still and quiet through their duration. - 144thousand_and_one
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  I bet you can sit for hours playing fiddling with the controls of your gameboy though, right? Be honest now. Does mom and dad know you are surfing the Internet now while you are supposed to be working? LOL ---- You Know

  Again, you have no answer for the question, but you did stoop to the use of a childish personal attack instead. Apparently, you think abuse of children is a "funny" subject, one worthy of jokes. The only joke is on you, because you are the dummy who is advocating a child abuse and exploitation cult that controls all facets of your life.
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  INDEED, LET THE GAMES BEGIN

  by You Know in

  1. social
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  several enemies of the watchtower have ebulliently expressed the sentiment: let the games begin.

  indeed, i too share that desire to let the games begin, so-to-speak.

  but, what exactly are we to expect when once the games commence?

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  144thousand_and_one

  You Know,

  My questions to you on the issue of child abuse and exploitation in the Watchtower cult are set forth on page 4 of this thread. In order to save you the effort of having to go back to that page, I'll reiterate them for you here:

  You Know, over the years, your cult leadership has encouraged the faithful to compel their children to perform marketing services (i.e. going "out in service") on behalf of the WTS without compensation. As a result, the WTS has been enriched by the exploitation of children and owes all children who were victimized by WTS greed a huge moral debt. I've raised this issue to you in another thread, but for some reason, you failed to address it. Is that because you are at a loss for words when it comes to advocating/defending the exploitation of children that is rampant in your cult?

  Similarly, why is it that your cult doesn't provide child care services or other activities for children during the meetings? Meetings are simply too long and too boring to expect kids to be able to sit still and quiet through their duration. The penalty for many kids who can't sit still while being blasted with effluent from the platform is beatings, many of them public (at the kingdom hall). Is it simply that the policy makers in your cult are ignorant of the common needs and attributes of children, or are they just sadistic men who take pleasure in the suffering of children?
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  INDEED, LET THE GAMES BEGIN

  by You Know in

  1. social
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  several enemies of the watchtower have ebulliently expressed the sentiment: let the games begin.

  indeed, i too share that desire to let the games begin, so-to-speak.

  but, what exactly are we to expect when once the games commence?

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  144thousand_and_one

  You Know,

  Why won't you respond to the issue of exploitation and abuse of children that is rampant in your cult? The issue has been presented to you several times, in various threads. I can only conclude that your silence is either indicative of a tacit approval of the child abuse and exploitation that is pervasive in your cult or that you simply have no words to defend the undefendable.

  An organization representing itself to the world as "god's organization" ought to be able to pay its bills without exploiting children, and shouldn't encourage its members to abuse their children.

  How can you advocate a cult that has ruined so many lives, and caused so much suffering to innocent children? The WTS has the same value to humanity as a cauldron of vomit.
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  INDEED, LET THE GAMES BEGIN

  by You Know in

  1. social
  2. current

  several enemies of the watchtower have ebulliently expressed the sentiment: let the games begin.

  indeed, i too share that desire to let the games begin, so-to-speak.

  but, what exactly are we to expect when once the games commence?

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  144thousand_and_one

  Children, children. Will the Bozo that attached that advertisment to my profile please remove it? LOL / You Know

  You Know,

  Simon attached that advertisement, and he's doing it throughout the site. Apparently, Simon doesn't have the benefit of a "great crowd" of suckers to fleece, so he has to fund this site by accepting advertisements from respectable vendors.
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  INDEED, LET THE GAMES BEGIN

  by You Know in

  1. social
  2. current

  several enemies of the watchtower have ebulliently expressed the sentiment: let the games begin.

  indeed, i too share that desire to let the games begin, so-to-speak.

  but, what exactly are we to expect when once the games commence?

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  144thousand_and_one

  Watchtower leaders are guilty of complicity in crimes against children, just as much as John Cardinal Law and other high Catholic officials are.

  Thanks Alan, for your statements in this regard.

  You Know, over the years, your cult leadership has encouraged the faithful to compel their children to perform marketing services (i.e. going "out in service") on behalf of the WTS without compensation. As a result, the WTS has been enriched by the exploitation of children and owes all children who were victimized by WTS greed a huge moral debt. I've raised this issue to you in another thread, but for some reason, you failed to address it. Is that because you are at a loss for words when it comes to advocating/defending the exploitation of children that is rampant in your cult?

  Similarly, why is it that your cult doesn't provide child care services or other activities for children during the meetings? Meetings are simply too long and too boring to expect kids to be able to sit still and quiet through their duration. The penalty for many kids who can't sit still while being blasted with effluent from the platform is beatings, many of them public (at the kingdom hall). Is it simply that the policy makers in your cult are ignorant of the common needs and attributes of children, or are they just sadistic men who take pleasure in the suffering of children?
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  Do ~~they~~ do it for the money?

  by LDH in

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  what never ceases to amaze me is why people ask this question about the gb.. why do they do it?

  they don't get paid.

  they're not getting rich!.

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  144thousand_and_one

  What never ceases to amaze me is why people ask this question about the GB.
  Why do they do it? They don't get paid. They're not getting rich!

  Lisa,

  While the JWs make frequent claims that the GB doesn't get paid, the WTS does not disclose its financial details to the public. Therefore, don't be too sure that these folks aren't being compensated. I find it very hard to believe these guys aren't getting paid, and furthermore, I believe the compensation is probably substantial and unwarranted.
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  Things I'm looking forward to once I leave

  by Leander in

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  for the first time in a long time i actually have something to look forward to.

  knowing that i no longer will be under the constraints of a oppresive religion has done a lot for me.

  (and i have'nt left yet) .

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  144thousand_and_one

  If I was just leaving, the thing I'd probably look forward to most would be premarital sex!