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  Disfellowshipping Child Abusers

  by TheMatrix in

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  i have a question on the issue of child abusers within the organization.. i know that it should be reported to the authorities as it is a crime against human laws, but it is also a sin against jehovah so it must handled theocratically also.. my question is: should a child abuser be disfellowshipped from the christian congregation?

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  144thousand_and_one

  Disfellowshipping child abusers? That would mean you would have to disfellowship anyone who subjects their children to the misery that is the Watchtower.

  How many out there can remember the multitudes of beatings that took place on kingdom hall property with the tacit approval of the Jehovah's Witnesses? As I recall, most of those beatings were doled out to children who were acting age-appropriate in their inability to sit still for hours of brain numbing programming delivered from the podium by idiots.

  What about the JW parents who force their children to slave away their childhood years, from house to house without compensation, marketing the JW's hateful message of intolerance to anyone weak-minded enough to listen to it? I'm sure the WTS and its advocates will find some alternative words to characterize this slavery, but it is clearly another form of abuse.

  Of course, the emotional trauma experienced by mere adherence to Watchtower rules concerning involvement in school sports and other activities, fellowship with normal people (i.e. "worldly" people), blood, etc., is a form of abuse in and of itself.
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  Lies in the Dateline Show

  by TheMatrix in

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  first lie: erica.

  i dont believe erica lied about her abuse.

  obviously it must be true, even mr. beliz confessed that he touched her inappropriately.

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  144thousand_and_one

  Non,

  I stand corrected. It was Eutapro who referred to him/herself as an "intellectual academic." However, my mistake was in part attributable to the lack of distinct characteristics that would distinguish your character from Eutapro's. Are you one in the same, or are you both the coincidental products of worthless curriculum?
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  Lies in the Dateline Show

  by TheMatrix in

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  first lie: erica.

  i dont believe erica lied about her abuse.

  obviously it must be true, even mr. beliz confessed that he touched her inappropriately.

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  144thousand_and_one

  Non has not lied. Part of the beauty of language is that it can be manipulated to ones own ends without resort to lie. That what non do. Non not lie. --Non whatever

  Non,

  Thanks for providing evidence (i.e., 2nd grade grammar) that your delusions of grandeur (i.e., representing yourself as an "intellectual academic") are just that, delusions. The sad reality is that you are nothing more than an idiot, dressing himself up as an intellectual. You've fooled no one here.
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  Lies in the Dateline Show

  by TheMatrix in

  1. social
  2. current

  first lie: erica.

  i dont believe erica lied about her abuse.

  obviously it must be true, even mr. beliz confessed that he touched her inappropriately.

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  144thousand_and_one

  Jehovah’s Witnesses are guided by Jehovah and his law and that’s the end of it. --TheMatrix

  No, Jehovah's Witnesses are guided by the WTBTS, and such guidance is enforced via zero tolerance for those who would question the wisdom of the "governing body," a collection of folks whose compensation ought to be disclosed.
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  THANKS SIMON

  by You Know in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  i just wanted to take a moment and thank you for providing this forum.

  of course, i realize that it's intended purpose is to serve as a stumbling block for jehovah's witnesses, yet at the same time it also serves as a platform for me to defend my faith in a public forum.

  over the years i have appreciated the opportunity provided by this and other forums to confront and refute various challenges that apostates have presented to our precious faith.

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  144thousand_and_one

  You Know,

  To summarize the verbose and boring ramblings in the thread you referred me to, you claim that Franz is a gossiper. The following is the definition of "lawless," as found at dictionary.com:

  law·less Pronunciation Key (lôls)adj.
  Unrestrained by law; unruly: a lawless mob.
  Contrary to the law; unlawful: the lawless slaughter of protected species.
  Not governed by law: the lawless frontier.

  So, You Know considers gossip to be unlawful, notwithstanding its prevalence within his cult. Check your state laws carefully, You Know, and you will find that gossip is not unlawful in any state in the USA. However, you will find that all states have laws that classify libel as a tort (civil wrong). You Know, you owe Ray Franz an apology and a retraction. Your failure to admit your wrongdoing and apologize for and retract the offending statement demonstrates your egotistical personality, as well as the absolute lack of basis for it.
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  THANKS SIMON

  by You Know in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  i just wanted to take a moment and thank you for providing this forum.

  of course, i realize that it's intended purpose is to serve as a stumbling block for jehovah's witnesses, yet at the same time it also serves as a platform for me to defend my faith in a public forum.

  over the years i have appreciated the opportunity provided by this and other forums to confront and refute various challenges that apostates have presented to our precious faith.

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  144thousand_and_one

  To date I can honestly boast that my apostate enemies have failed to present any challenge which I have not been able to refute using the word of my God. - - You Know

  I guess I must be one of You Know's apostate "friends," as opposed to enemies, since, to date, he has never been able to refute or defend my statements to him concerning the rampant child abuse and exploitation that is encouraged by the Watchtower cult he purports to be a member of.

  Recently, You Know referred to Ray Franz as "lawless":

  It is similar to the operation of error that has already caused many to come under the influence of Ray Franz and other lawless apostates. -- You Know

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=28050&site=3&page=3

  However, when I asked You Know to clarify for us which laws he is accusing Ray Franz of breaking, or retract what appears to be a libelous statement, he responded as follows:

  LOL. You definitely have potential as a stand-up comic! / You Know

  Is this what you call refuting a challenge, You Know?

  You Know doesn't even have the decency to retract a statement that appears libelous on its face. So, the message from You Know is that it's ok to lie about others, as long as the lie is told while you are advocating the Jehovah's Witness cult. A fine Christian message indeed.
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  A Priori Proof For God's Existence

  by non_trias_theos in

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  there are some propositions that rational substances know are true but do not know why they are true.

  this concept is illustrated when one reflects on problems associated with self-referentiality (godel's theorem).

  physicists also work with a priori ideas that they take as givens, notions without which thought would be impossible.

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  144thousand_and_one

  You talk incessantly. You say next-to-nothing. -- Farkel

  Farkel,

  Thank you for summarizing non-whatever's words in a language the rest of us can understand! I'm going to give you an "o" for "outstanding" on your counsel slip in the following categories: clarity, brevity, and accuracy.
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  Grammar For Farkies

  by non_trias_theos in

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  case---a particular form of a nominal, pronominal or modifier that expresses a syntactical relationship between other morpho-phonic forms found in a sentence.. adjective---a part of speech that modifies a substantive by means of suffixes such as -er and -est or by functioning syntactically in a predicative or attributive way.. declension---a class of words belonging to one language with the same or a similar system of inflections.. gender---a grammatical category used to classify nouns, pronouns, adjectives and sometimes verbs.

  grammatical gender is not necessarily associated with actual gender.

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  144thousand_and_one

  This individual sounds strikingly similar to mystikool and eutapro. Do you have a confession to make, non-whatever?
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  Grammar For Farkies

  by non_trias_theos in

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  case---a particular form of a nominal, pronominal or modifier that expresses a syntactical relationship between other morpho-phonic forms found in a sentence.. adjective---a part of speech that modifies a substantive by means of suffixes such as -er and -est or by functioning syntactically in a predicative or attributive way.. declension---a class of words belonging to one language with the same or a similar system of inflections.. gender---a grammatical category used to classify nouns, pronouns, adjectives and sometimes verbs.

  grammatical gender is not necessarily associated with actual gender.

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  144thousand_and_one

  There is more than one way to show a brother love. Ain't you ever heard of agape love? You obviously do not know what time it is. - - non-trias-theos

  I may not know what time it is, but I have to laugh at someone who criticizes the grammar of others when their own grammar doesn't meet 8th grade standards. Did you drop out of school to pioneer?

  Apparently, you are also unable to recognize when someone is joking with you. You must be quite a social dud. Is the computer the sole source of your social interaction?
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  Grammar For Farkies

  by non_trias_theos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  case---a particular form of a nominal, pronominal or modifier that expresses a syntactical relationship between other morpho-phonic forms found in a sentence.. adjective---a part of speech that modifies a substantive by means of suffixes such as -er and -est or by functioning syntactically in a predicative or attributive way.. declension---a class of words belonging to one language with the same or a similar system of inflections.. gender---a grammatical category used to classify nouns, pronouns, adjectives and sometimes verbs.

  grammatical gender is not necessarily associated with actual gender.

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  144thousand_and_one

  And he need some classes in logic and grammar. He is the one who said he did not know what terms non used meant. -- non_trias_theos

  You might benefit from some remedial grammar lessons as well.

  Non was just showing a brother love. - - non_trias-theos

  That's very sweet of you, but Farkel hasn't disclosed his sexual orientation on this site, so maybe you should show your "love" to some other "brother."