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Online Higher Education

by SonoftheTrinity in

since the faithful and discreet slave class now opposes higher education because it allegedly brings with it 'bad association', i wonder what their take is on online education.

let's remember that distance education was pioneered by fundamentalist saudi arabia and apartheid south africa for the very reasons that the jehovah's witnesses criticize higher education.

my wife is one of the faithful and i fear for our kids future, that they will see no point in keeping their grades up.

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Education noun noun: education ; 1. the process of receiving or giving systematic instruction, especially at a school or university. " a course of education "

synonyms:

teaching, schooling, tuition, tutoring, instruction, pedagogy, andragogy, coaching, training, tutelage, drilling, preparation, guidance, indoctrination, inculcation, enlightenment, edification, cultivation, development, improvement, bettering

I understand what you mean villagegirl, there are no exams, no tutoring, diplomas etc. But I think it qualifies.

It's how most of us here got our knowledge of the TATT. Online distance learning. Teaching oneself by using the incredible resources that are available online on any and every subject is most defintely educational.

I became a professioanal photographer by completely teaching myself. Before that I was a professional musician again entirely self taught.

Believe in yourself.

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The benefits of being out of the Organisation..

by Dis-Member in

elder 1. .

elder 2.. .

elder 3.. .

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I wish ill on no one. Depsite how much damage and hurt they caused me when I was young, sensitive and impressionable, I wish them no ill.

I blame the organisaiton for what happened to me.. and eventually over time all these people too. Seems some of them ended up worse off. It's all so sad and tragic the way this religion can utterly destroy lives.

It's clearly not the spritual paradise of healing love they describe it to be.

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37 years later, I finally got the CULT thing

by Freedom77 in

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friends

hi all, just happened to come across this site again after 10 or 12 years - i see some old posts of mine under a diff username (can't reopen the account, forgot the freakin' password).

i left the borg in 1977, age 21, haven't looked back but every now and then i am amazed to find there's some old, old attitude from the jw days that i find is still clinging to my pants leg like a stray sticker.. looking over some of the posts here and some linked ex-jw sites yesterday it finally hit me - it is an effing cult.

when i was in, we were always accused of being that, so naturally we totally spouted the society's line and got all defensive, etc.

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Londo111 said:

Even when I was first learning TTATT, I denied it was a cult..

That fact is only just really dawning on me too right now and the serious harm and abuse this does to one's mind, heart and spirit. That damage goes very deep and can take years if not decades to wash it from one's system. I think I would do well to read Steven Hassan's book again.

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To understand cults we need to start understanding ourselves

by paranoia agent in

there are books out there that talk about why it is so difficult to convince someone that they are wrong.

hassan and singer specifically address destructive cults.

hassan refers to cult members under mind control and singer under thought reform.

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The most difficult thing in life is to know yourself. ~Thales~

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American English Standards Manual, 9/98 ¡leaked!

by hildebrando in

"the rules and principles of the standards manual are applied to english text so that the english publications of the watch tower society have a consistent style.. the standards manual does not set standards for languages other than english.

each language has its own principles and characteristics to which to conform.

see branch organization for the function of the english manual with respect to other languages.. legitimate exceptions to principles of the standards manual may be appropriate for somefeature of text that has specialized content or purpose.

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I'll have the pdf shortly..

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Old WT Publications I have

by William Penwell in

i have a number of older wt publications.

due to downsizing, i would like to get rid of them.

if some of are of value and have not being scanned, i could scan them for all to share.

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Whole book here:

http://www.strictlygenteel.co.uk/booklets/questions/ThenIsFinished.pdf

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Online Higher Education

by SonoftheTrinity in

since the faithful and discreet slave class now opposes higher education because it allegedly brings with it 'bad association', i wonder what their take is on online education.

let's remember that distance education was pioneered by fundamentalist saudi arabia and apartheid south africa for the very reasons that the jehovah's witnesses criticize higher education.

my wife is one of the faithful and i fear for our kids future, that they will see no point in keeping their grades up.

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You can get a superb online education at http://www.jwfacts.com

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Stuck in JWs are in a toxic relationship

by skeeter1 in

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friends

are "stuck in" jws in a toxic relationship?

this past two weeks, i've been realizing that a few of my jw relatives are very toxic people (they fit the description below).

i realized that alot of ex-jws who are stuck dealing with jws may also be in a toxic relationship.

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This is good sound advice that I wish I knew about long ago. Thank you Skeeter.

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The benefits of being out of the Organisation..

by Dis-Member in

elder 1. .

elder 2.. .

elder 3.. .

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I'm not sure that these men have suffered evil as though innocently attacked from some outside source. (ala Job) or like evil just fell out of the sky and landed on their heads. I'm afrad they were very much the orchestrators of their fates.

Dumping your long time loyal and faithful wife of 30 years and your family of 3 children and running of with a Thai prostitute is not suffering evil.

Abusing your position of trust as an elder and sexually molesting a vulnerable sister while you are meant to be responsible for helping her build up her spirituality is not suffering evil.

5 different elders from the same BOE raising several generations of offspring so badly that nearly every single one of them utterly shipwrecked and/or completely fled the religion in the most extreme and dramatic ways imaginable is not suffering evil.

I also think that this kind of stuff is far more common than some would like to think. It's just all hidden and covered up so neatly by those people in this religion.

Not sure what one would call this.. but 'suffering evil' is not a phrase or description I would choose.

Luke 8:17
For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.

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A "follow up" meeting?!?!

by DATA-DOG in

well, now they want a follow up visit!

when you tell the elders that you have doubts and they say " its okay, we have had our doubts.

having doubts is not apostasy.

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Focus said:

Scare the life out of these rapists. Tell them if they impede your "fade", you will set up a website exposing the Watchtower fraud, and you will name them and have their photographs on page one of the site. Get your camera out and take their photos on the spot, while you say that.

That works. I told them if they attempt to committee me or dis me in my absence I will take the whole messy story and a complete documented history of their failings and hypocrisy in congregation goings ons and scandals to the press and publish my own book complete with hi res photos of all of them which I have as I shot many org events, parties and assemblies and publish their real names too and locations on my own website that's had over a million views from 147 different countries.

One elder wrote to me in an email that I can not use these photos without permission to which I replied yes I can as I shot them at a public event and own full copyrite. As long as it's not commercial I can do with them as I please.

I then said if you want to organise a three manned committee then I too will bring three people. A lawyer, a journalist and an officer of the law.

That was about 8 months ago. I have not heard another word from them.

Seems they like to operate behind closed doors. Things that expose them or drag the game into the broad public daylight they avoid like the plague.