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  Is Faith Immoral?

  by Coded Logic in

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  when people willfully believe something without evidence, or contrary to evidence, are they neglecting thier moral responsibility?

  so many people say faith is a virtue but i just can't comprehend why anyone would think that.

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  Dis-Member, then at least a part of me never grew up. My marriage is a November romance and I fell just as hard. Even as my logical side cried for caution, I fell in to the well of emotion. Illogical, foolish, but it worked out anyhow.

  Dis-Member, I have an idea why faith might be more dangerous. Why do you think so?

  When I fall it's with without reservation but tempered with reason.

  Blind Faith is more dangerous.. because with blind love you can only hurt 2 people, the love object and yourself, with blind faith your can hurt yourself and potentially every other living thing you come into contact with.
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  HOW TO AVOID THE A-HOLE SPIRIT OF SOME HERE...

  by DATA-DOG in

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  1) take meds for your megalomania and delusions of grandeur.. .

  suggestions welcome.. .

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  Lol no worries
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  No good tree bears bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit...Elders

  by jam in

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  how many elders do you know that have produced bad.

  fruits, their kids???.

  i was thinking and three prominent elders one a co.. i realize that young people leave when they become adults, but.

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  Of the 6 elders that were on my committee in 1884: 10 of their collective children have left 'the truth' completely, 3 are gay, one is on class A drugs, 3 are apostate, the rest had mental breakdowns and fell away. The one married elder that did not have kids was removed as an elder but not disfellowshipped for sexually molesting a younger sister during and one-on-one home shepherding visit at her place.

  "By their fruits you will know them."
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  HOW TO AVOID THE A-HOLE SPIRIT OF SOME HERE...

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1) take meds for your megalomania and delusions of grandeur.. .

  suggestions welcome.. .

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  Hey D-M:

  Have you located that information yet 'proving' your claim that no (atheist) Chinese has invented anything in the last 1,000 years? I'm dying to read that....

  It was not me that made that comment ADCMS.. I would never be so reckless. But you thinking it was me makes your previous statment make sense now.

  A quick search will show the Chinese have been extremely busy in the inventions game.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions
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  HOW TO AVOID THE A-HOLE SPIRIT OF SOME HERE...

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1) take meds for your megalomania and delusions of grandeur.. .

  suggestions welcome.. .

  dd.

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  Dis-Member seems to be one of those people who will do the right thing only because....fear of punishment from some god keeps him from doing what he really wants to do. In his view, an atheist must be wicked because he doesn't believe in god...therefore apparently has no goodness or morals whatsoever.

  Perhaps I need to qualify ADCMS.. I was referring to the extreme ends of both the so called Christian and atheist spectrum. And you have to admit there are some pretty unpleasant individuals in both camps. I'm sure too there are also gentle and kind individuals in both circles.

  .. and no I try to do the right thing because it feels right to me.. not because I am told or because I read it in some book. If I feared punishment I would still be at the meetings I quit over a year and a half ago and on my knees pleading. I do neither. Even when in I was extremely independent. I fear neither punishment or death as I have had many close dealings with both in my life.
  
  I'm currently floating in no-mans land till I can figure out what I exactly do and do not believe. I am neither a Christian nor an atheist.. what ever options are left I'm in that blur somewhere.. One thing I feel somewhat sure about though is that everyone of us is wrong.
  
  @Objectivetruth: You just confuse me that's all. I meant no offense..
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  Is Faith Immoral?

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when people willfully believe something without evidence, or contrary to evidence, are they neglecting thier moral responsibility?

  so many people say faith is a virtue but i just can't comprehend why anyone would think that.

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  Let's take romance as an analogy. In the early stages there is plenty of deception on both sides as we present our best selves. There's a fair bit of self-deception too, as our hormones kick in, the rose coloured glasses are firmly installed, and all our evolutionary drive is hurtling us towards coupling and commitment. It is not logical or reasonable, but we do it anyways.

  That usually only applies to young naive and often inexperienced teenagers. Not mature, experienced and critical thinking persons. I mean when was the last time you 'hurtled towards coupling'?

  Between blind love and blind faith I think blind faith to be the more dangerous.
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  My summer camp job experience

  by d in

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  this summer i met a russian women i worked at a summer camp for people with developmental disabilities and she is going back to russia in september.

  i grew to really like her as a person.

  i just feel empty that she is now gone to new york heading beck to moscow we hung out on three seperate occasions and i enjoyed myself and her company .

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  Why so long between Skype appointments? Does she not have a laptop or something? I never heard anyone in my life say: "Hey let's talk on Skype in 7 days time.."
  
  In my experience such long distance relationships are fraught with difficulty stress and frustration not to mention they can be very expensive. I have been in a few. I had a relationship with a woman that lived 1,484 miles from me. In the first year alone I spent just under £20,000 just on going back and forth visiting her 6 times. Then when you have to leave and come home the feeling of separation and loneliness is worse then you can imagine. It's actually quite horrible.

  I would be cautious about getting involved.
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  Debunking the Bible

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
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  there seems to be an endless number of ways to show the bible is not devinely inspired but all of it seems so complicated.

  anyone know any simple arguements for this?

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  The dialogue above between Comatose and ObjectiveTruth..
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  Debunking the Bible

  by Coded Logic in

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  2. beliefs

  there seems to be an endless number of ways to show the bible is not devinely inspired but all of it seems so complicated.

  anyone know any simple arguements for this?

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  I now know what it feels like to be in a barn full of headless chickens..
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  ELDER LIES AND GET'S PRAISED FOR IT! FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME!

  by BucketShopBill in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  want to know how a lie can turn into a compliment?

  only in the jw mindset!!!.

  we got called into the dreaded back room after meeting to find two elders wanting to discuss a 'serious' matter with us.

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  You should always stand up to elders... I have found them to be generally cowards.

  Jame 4:7 Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

  That also applies to elders.