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  My brother died last night

  by doodle-v in

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  my brother turned 21 on september 24th, a month later the doctor told him that his leukimia had returned and he had a 10% chance of surviving.

  ten days before he died he spent four days at my house.

  he had already made up his mind that he wasnt going to take blood.

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  Doodle, I'm so sorry for the loss of your brother. He was so young, so sad.

  (((((Hugs, Doodle))))

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  disassociated without baptism

  by detective in

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  i believe there was a topic about disfellowshipping an unbaptized person awhile back but i can't remember enough of the details to find it.. i was speaking with a friend yesterday who was disassociated as a young teenager, complete with a reading to the congregation and shunning, despite the fact that this person was never baptized.. (i tipped my hand a bit by blurting out that they aren't supposed to be able to do that if you aren't baptized.

  way to go, smartie!

  nice way to play it cool with how much research this non-jw has done, but that's beside the point.).

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  Blondie, yes she was an unbaptized publisher, she gave talks the whole bit. The elders never met with her at all. It was like they didn't know that she was missing. She went to that Kingdom Hall as a newborn until she was 18, it wasn't like they didn't know who she was. At the time I was devastated, I felt that the elders didn't know that she existed and it really hurt. Our congregation was having some problems at the time (we had two elders all of a sudden transfer to our congregation). They were probably too busy to be bothered with her at the time. She wasn't very strong in the "truth" and probably not worth their time, plus she was a female. Now I'm glad that we've been left alone, I just hope it continues.

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  disassociated without baptism

  by detective in

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  i believe there was a topic about disfellowshipping an unbaptized person awhile back but i can't remember enough of the details to find it.. i was speaking with a friend yesterday who was disassociated as a young teenager, complete with a reading to the congregation and shunning, despite the fact that this person was never baptized.. (i tipped my hand a bit by blurting out that they aren't supposed to be able to do that if you aren't baptized.

  way to go, smartie!

  nice way to play it cool with how much research this non-jw has done, but that's beside the point.).

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  I'm confused (don't take much). My daughter was raised in the truth, never baptized. She stopped going to meetings when she was 18. If she would have been baptized she defiantly would have been disfellowshipped, she committed a "sin" that was well known among all in the congregation. Basically we have been left alone, not a peep regarding my daughter from the elders. I don't even know if they announced that she was a disapproved associate. When she is meet out in public she is treated very well by the "friends". Is there some unwritten rule that some congregations follow and others don't?

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  Religious fanaticism is a great breeding ground for pettiness

  by Waymores Ghost in

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  having been raised as a dub, as i look back to those days, i can't count the number of times issues were raised by the pettiest of things.

  buying a vehicle that was anything but a foor-door sedan - you know, the kind most suitable for service - could in fact start a whirl-wind of gossip - he's not putting "kingdom" interests first...they don't need another car - if they're that well off then they should be helping out a little more with our kingdom hall's expenses etc.. what are some of the most pettiest issues you have seen raised while you were a dub?.

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  Welcome Waymers Ghost! As to the pettiness in our congregation I could write a book!

  We had a ms (elder wannabe, that finally made elder) stand in the back of the hall and count all that made trips to the restroom during the meetings. So of course I made several trips just to make sure I was counted several times :-). They even had a special needs talk on not using the restroom during the meetings unless it was really necessary, something about if we had outhouses instead we surely wouldn't be making trips to the toilet unless it was an emergency.

  Another ms (elder wannabe, that finally made elder) was on some kind of vendetta that all should wash their hands after using the toilet (which is a good policy, by the way). There was a special needs talk on this also. He drew some pictures of hands and the cycle of germs when hands aren't washed, he framed and hung these pieces of artwork in both restrooms of the kh to remind us all to wash our hands. I felt like I was in kindergarten.

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  So many great actors/actresses from Australia....

  by DanTheMan in

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  i just saw "mulholland drive", featuring the incredibly lovely naomi watts, who pulled off what is one of the most superb acting performances i've ever witnessed, she was spectacular.

  i did a little bit of internet research after seeing the movie, because it was very strange and even though i enjoyed it, i couldn't make any sense of it.

  among other things, i learn that the aforementioned ms. watts is an aussie.

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  And don't forget the Wiggles! I look after my 2 year old Grandson, and we watch them quite a bit.

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  When would a non -baptized person be DA'ed?? ( Blondie or others)

  by Poztate in

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  on ozzie post i noticed this statement from blondiedoes anyone remember the days when an unbaptized person was "disassociated".

  i was of the impression that kids who were brought up in the "truth" but had not been baptized would still be da'ed if they were caught doing something against any of the many rules.has this changed???.

  could a local congo still practice da'ing even if head office had changed their policy??

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  My daughter was raised in the "Truth" but never baptized (smart girl), she stopped going to meetings when she was 18. She has done things that she would be DF for if she had been Baptized, and everyone know it. She has not been shunned, in fact she has been treated real nice by the "friends" when she meets them in public. My hubby is still a JW and the Elders have not advised him to cut any ties with her (she no longer lives at home). Actually the Elders pretty much have ignored the situation.

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  Have You Had Any "Blessings" Since You've Left The Truth?

  by minimus in

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  "Incidentally, I have learned that it drives Witness CRAZY to hear or see that you are Happy or doing well after leaving the organization."

  Isn't that the truth! The first time in 20 plus years I'm really happy and at peace with myself. I still have a long way to go, but I'm enjoying the journey.

  Last weekend I went to the CA, I had quite a few people come up to me and ask me how I was doing, I said "really great" and that is the truth! A couple of sisters actually came up to me a remarked on how good I looked, and I said "Being an Apostate really agrees with me" just kidding!

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  Remember Herbert W. or Garner Ted Armstrong?

  by wednesday in

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  recently i have remembered a man named armstrong and a mag.

  he used to publish "the plain truth".

  i remember in the 60-70 many people used to get him mixed up with jws.

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  My hubby and I used to watch his TV show and get the "Plain Truth" magazines in the early 70's before we became JW's. Now that I look back, we were prime pickings for a cult, I consider myself lucky that I didn't join a cult worse then the JW's (yes, I consider the JW's a cult).

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  What Was Your Biggest Gripe About The Elders???

  by minimus in

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  after reading some of the pain that you've gone through, in many cases, the elders weren't there at all for you.

  i'm wondering what your biggest complaint about the elders is.

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  Their uncaring attitude. It was like my family was invisible, we didn't matter to the elders. They still treat my hubby that way, he is irregular at meetings and service, he is basically ignored. I know he is hurting, and in his mind the ones that he loves the most are going to die. You think that they would give him a few words of encouragement. But I can consider myself lucky that so far they haven't payed me too much attention.

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  What Was "IT" That Finally Made You Leave The "Truth"?

  by minimus in

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  anything in particular, or was it a combination of things??

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  For me it was lack of love. When my daughter decided that she no longer wanted to go to the meetings, not one of the elders asked about her or offered a shepherding call. It was like she never existed for the last 18 years in that Kingdom Hall. Of course I was devastated, after all to me, at the time, it was a life and death situation, she was going to die at Armageddon. As a result of her treatment (or non-treatment), I was so hurt, I went looking on the internet for other JW's that might have experienced similar things. Well I found H20, then eventually I ended up here. I found out that the so called "truth" is all a sham.

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