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  Best family of 4 survival kits

  by DS211 in

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  whats the best family survuval kits out there that are affordable lol.

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  Whats the best family survuval kits out there that are affordable lol
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  33 percent of Americans reject evolution

  by Simon in

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  http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57616373-71/33-percent-of-americans-reject-evolution/.

  that seems to be a disturbingly high number for a western / educated / developed nation.. does this have anything at all to do with america slipping behind in the sciences?

  it seems hard to imagine they could not not be linked somehow.. no surprise that the jesus party (republicans) reject evolution the most.

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  No, its simple. Theyd rather have someone tell them what evo is and not read it for themselves...to many reading what evokution really is may prove a boring task.

  I struggle with it but with patience it helps. Many americans are not patient.
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  Logic and perception-how the WT deceives

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  logic and perception page 110-111 in how to teach your child (or jw) how to think.

  "logic is the way scientists, or other people, have to present their ideas.

  even if a scientific breakthrough came out through hunch or chance it must be presented as if it were the result of logic.

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  Fink is using the M.E.P.S system created by Gods one true organization on earth.
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  independent thinking

  by stephenw20 in

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  1983 "avoid independent thinking .. how is such independent thinking manifested?

  a common way is by questioning the counsel that is provided by god's visible organization.

  " {wt jan 15 1983 22}.

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  When i heard that quote from morris i was at the front row of the annual meeting and i was about to throw my daughters teddy at the screen. To me they were rubbing what they know is false in the foklowers faces...taunting them with "i wont twist the scriptures like brother so and so" and "theres no need to test the truth!".....blah
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  Questions on Evolution and the Existence of God and...

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  i know this is one huge rant, but i want to put my own questions and doubts in writing.. i am a fading jw who has become agnostic... i still believe in "god" and "jesus," but i simply cannot explain to people why i believe in them.

  i just do.. about the existence of god: it is an infinite regress.

  "all things were created by someone"... well... who created god?

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  Marky mark Marked
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  Logic and perception-how the WT deceives

  by DS211 in

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  logic and perception page 110-111 in how to teach your child (or jw) how to think.

  "logic is the way scientists, or other people, have to present their ideas.

  even if a scientific breakthrough came out through hunch or chance it must be presented as if it were the result of logic.

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  total rubbish
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  Jehovah does NOT cause bad things to happen

  by DS211 in

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  ok third rant since last night.

  a "demonstration" was given on how to give some brochures and in this demo it starts:.

  "hi im suchandsuch and im one of jehovahs witnesses".

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  So God wiped out the whole earth except noah, his fam, and two of each "kind" of animal....what the hell did the animals do?
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  No more doubts for me! Good-bye JWN! We have THE TRUTH!

  by DATA-DOG in

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  i could go on and on about my personal journey over the last 2 years or so, but i don't need to.

  everything i needed to hear to finally lay my doubts to rest happened on one meeting night.

  it could only be divine providence.

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  Its important to note 7 hours ago DD was his old self so im thinking hes leadin us on;-)
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  No more doubts for me! Good-bye JWN! We have THE TRUTH!

  by DATA-DOG in

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  i could go on and on about my personal journey over the last 2 years or so, but i don't need to.

  everything i needed to hear to finally lay my doubts to rest happened on one meeting night.

  it could only be divine providence.

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  Remember christ said how theyd say what great works they performed and he told them he didnt know them and basically get th F away ;-)
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  Logic and perception-how the WT deceives

  by DS211 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  logic and perception page 110-111 in how to teach your child (or jw) how to think.

  "logic is the way scientists, or other people, have to present their ideas.

  even if a scientific breakthrough came out through hunch or chance it must be presented as if it were the result of logic.

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  Logic and Perception page 110-111 in how to teach your child (or jw) how to think

  "Logic is the way scientists, or other people, have to present their ideas. Even if a scientific breakthrough came out through hunch or chance it must be presented as if it were the result of Logic. Otherwise ideas cannot be accepted."
  1914 Ring a bell? WWI started that year therefore logically thats when the world would end...woops wait thats not logical cause it didnt end. That must mean that it was just the beginning of the time of the end. Right thats more logical. Moving on....

  "Sometimes we need logic to take our perceptions further. Sometimes better perception reduces the need for logic.
  Perception is how we see the world around us"
  --the world is satans system, we are no part of the world.
  "Logic is how we make the best use of perception."
  --i should not celebrate Christmas because it is pagan and part of satans system, the bible says so based on what the WT states and GB says. That makes sense cause theres a lot of greedy people during the holidays.

  "I once observed a cicada at close range. The cicada was making a loud noise but i could not tell how the noise was being made. No matter how closely i looked...i could not see any wings, wing cases, or legs moving in such a way as to make the noise. It was only later that i found that another cicada....was actually making the noise.
  This example is typical of one of the most widespread errors in thinking. If we look at only part of the situation, our logic will give us a false answer. But how do we know there is more we shoukd be looking at? THAT is where perception comes in."
  --the WT controls information and feeds followers and potentials with only their ideas and THEIR logic. Therefore they control and change when needed, the perception of its followers environments. Hence why "new light" is usually not a big problem for them. Theyve eliminated independent perception and logic.