Posts by Abaddon

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So here's what I'm thinking...my bleeding heart liberal rant...

by changeling in

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i heard on the news this morning that the us has finally met it's enlistement quota.

they acheived this by offering a $20,000 bonus upon enlisting.. the us has also relaxed it's standards as to who they allow to enlist.

a criminal record and drug issues will no longer keep you out of the armed forces.. so, in many cases the country is sending uneduacted, criminally inclined young men and women to a nasty war, to witness atrocities that furthur sear their conscience.

Abaddon

I'm in the 'States on business; saw a Marines recruitment advert on TV whilst having a drink in a bar (and seeing Standford stuff USC) and nearly puked in my glass.

Yay! Let's glamourise being a trained killer fighting for access to oil.

I am not saying that there is no need for a millitary, just that making recruitment adverts like pop videos is disgusting.

As for imposing high educational standards on soldiers... well, that's one way of reducing the number of people in the armed forces.

I think having the wife or husband and children of heads of state fight to the death in place of conventional warfare is probably the quickest solution to bring about world peace.

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GB on Airplanes

by oneairhead in

have you ever heard of anyone running into the gb on an airliner?

i have not and so that only leads me to believe that they charter jets to move them around the world.

how do they travel?.

Abaddon

They don't need planes to fly; the hot air exiting their sanctimoniARSE's gets them there far faster than even an SR71 Blackbird could.

32

Hello everyone

by Ben_Waterford in

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my name's ben and i'm fresh off the boat, if you will.

are there any real life support groups for people like us, or is this as good as it gets?

i look forward to meeting you all.

Abaddon

Hi Ben

This is a real life support group. Maybe your expectations were wrong? All this place is is a bunch of people who have very varied outcomes from exiting a cult.

And that is the beauty of it; a cult is 'one size fits all'. This site shows how we can all be different, and that despite that no one is bad... just different.

Sometimes there is a beauty in 'as good as it gets' - besides, who would want more?

All the best and welcome...

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Hilarious, Crazy, or Weird Field Service Experiences - Did You Have Some ?

by flipper in

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hello folks.

i've seen variants of this before on this site , but i've been starting such serious topics lately such as death and non belief in the org.

felt i needed to get some humor out and exhale a bit !

Abaddon

I so can't beat a 'gator on a chain ...

Two I recall;

A naked woman chatting to us from behind obscure glass door (boy does that make it look like you have teaminal cellulite)

A woman on a speakerphone asking me to describe myself physically, hair colour, height.. then she asked if I wore glasses. I said no but I wear contact lenses. She said "No, you're not the one I want" and put the phone down. Always wondered what would have happened if the answers had been 'right'...

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Ben Stein Movie Re: Intelligent Design & Scientists Coming February 2008

by Justitia Themis in

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http://www.expelledthemovie.com/movie_overview.php.

Abaddon

Perry

I personally cant wait until it comes out. Expose the fascists!!

What about expose the liars? This move was presented to those scientists taking part under a different and neutral tile and then the title of the movie was changed to a biased one. If ID is a decent theory why is it neccesary for it's believers to resort to deception Perry? And why does someone who claims to be a Christian vocally support a film put together by liars? And why do Creationists dand ID-er have to be such pathetic whiners? The standards of scientific evindence are well established. The principle of peer review is well established. They were not established with ID or Creationism in mind, they were designed to minimise the chance of error. Your accusations of facism are false and given your own totalitarian beliefs show your own hypocracy. ANYONE, be they evolutionist, Creationist, ID-er, physicist, chemist, etc, who wants to have a theory accepted has to meet the standards of scientific evidence. ANYONE, be they evolutionist, Creationist, ID-er, physicist, chemist, etc, who wants to have a paper published in a scientific journal has to be peer reviewed. Creationism and ID simply do not meet the standards of scientific evidence or of peer review. BUT THAT IS THE FAULT OF THOSE WHO PRESENT SUCH POORLY FOUNDED BELIEFS, NOT OF THE FILTER SYSTEM THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY USES TO STOP UNPROVEN RUBBISH BEING ACCEPTED AS FACTUAL. Rather than try and meet universal standards, the Creationist and ID community whines and expects special treatment, and then blames their own failure in proving their beliefs on the scientific community.

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Where Do We Really Go When We Die ?

by flipper in

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oh, boy.

just had these thoughts rattling around in my head a few days, so wanted to get your takes.

my college son and i were talking and he said a fellow worker in his 50's said he had been aware his mother was sick and dying in another town , but had not died yet.

Abaddon

Although I am sceptical, I don't know for sure if our personalities cease to exist as seems logically likely given the evidence.

I do know people like Sylvia Browne are nasty little charlatans parasitising the bereaved.

http://www.randi.org/jr/012805opinions.html

http://www.stopsylviabrowne.com/articles/interview_dufresnes.shtml

http://skepdic.com/psychdet.html

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In Ongoing Email Exchange with Barbara Anderson....

by AK - Jeff in

she made a few salient points regarding child-molestation, why many reject the claims, should they?, and the two witness rule that jw's use.. i thought i would post them for open discussion:.

many jws defend the wt's approach to child abuse accusations requiring two witnesses to the act of molestation because it is thought that most accusations are not true.

this argument came up when i was in bethel.

Abaddon

I agree the majority of child abuse claims are true; ritual abuse is another kettle of fish as any research into the subject will reveal.

I would however advise caution in assuming the fact the large percentage of people admitting to abuse as part of the trial process is indicative of a similar percentage of accusations being true. In a legal system where plea-bargins are everyday and mundane it is not an assumption one can make.

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did we really land on the moon?

by ninja in

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i'm kidding.....i'm kidding......muhahahaha

Abaddon

You got me ninja; my eyeballs rolled clean round inside my skull and I am typing this on a braille keyboard...

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What was your first car?

by nicolaou in

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mine was an old fiat 127, i bought it 1983 and it was at least fifteen years old then!

the seats were vinyl and there were no rear seatbelts so i could send my girlfriend and her sister flying with each bend in the road!

it wouldn't go above 55mph and was rattling like rollercoaster when it finally got there.. the rear window fell out and it finally croaked in puff of blue/black smoke.

Abaddon

One of these, but it was painted in grey Hammerite and had a baby-seat rivitted to the floor in the back;

... I got it handed on to me by my brother. Wonderful little piece-of-shit, easy to work on although you needed hands like an 8 year-old to get at the distributor easily... got stolen eventually... 80mph flat-out, but so close to the ground it alway felt fast.

Then it was Audi 80 (stolen and written off), Ford Grenada (MkII) 2.6l V6 (bought it off my dad, gave to ex-wife when we split-up, it died of old age). That actually almost had something you could call 'performance'. Then a Ford Grenada (MkIII) 2.0l (another one I bought off my dad, it got scrapped), which was horrid. And now a Skoda Fabia, the only thing I have had from new.

It's a company car so basically I drive it like a bumper car. Got it up to almost 190kph (120mph) a few weeks ago on an autobahn in Germany (on a steep hill, jumping up and down and blowing at the windscreen) which isn't bad for an engine with less power than a SUV's AC unit...

Looking forward to being in SF this weekend and driving an American car. I've got a Chevy Impala, what are they like? From my experience driving American cars (a half dozen and a few thousand miles) you guys seem to like softer springs, soggier steering and bigger engines than we normally have over here but the cars are great for driving in the US.

What's the speed limit in CA nowadays?

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watch for the squibs used in demolition

by ninja in

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krz0zuqu-3u

Abaddon

berten

You say too soon so you can cling to claims of 'freefall', although you know you can't explain how the explosives got there, you know that firemen reported increasing signs of strutural instability, you can see the collapse was asymetrical. Those three facts alone would make a reasonable person conclude that if video evidence is inconclusive then there is little chance of it being an explosion because of those thre simple facts.

I looked below the video (nice and vauge) and saw a link to a fireman saying it was bound to collapse due to its structural integrity being gone; just another peice of evidenec you;ll ignore because it doesn;t fit your desired conclusion.

Don't get bent out of shape because you have beliefs that don't hold up to examiniation.

I know believing in a conspiracy involving the demoltion of the WTC is meant to make you cool, intellectual and edgey, not a self-made object of fun who shows themselves up by poor research, and the reaction being different to that you expect must be disoriontating. I think that's why you leave 'the playground'; you know you are wrong (you certainly can't even prove hat you believe is possible) but just can't let go and your inability to prove something bugs you, although you'd never admit it.

Why is it so neccesary to believe that Bush or people other than the terrorists were directly responsible for the attacks (i.e. didn't just let it happen/be incompetent) when you can't prove this?

We both probably think Bush is a corrupt clown who engineered an invasion using pretexts such as 911. You have to add to that invisable fairies planting invisible explosives in buildings (how else did it happen, eh?) that we know collapsed due to impact/debris damage and fire and even when you can see a video of a fireman saying 'it's gonna fall down it's lost structural integrity' or words to that effect you ignore it.

I don't get it....