Where Do We Really Go When We Die ?

flipper

Here I come again. Oh, boy. Just had these thoughts rattling around in my head a few days, so wanted to get your takes. My college son and I were talking and he said a fellow worker in his 50's said he had been aware his mother was sick and dying in another town , but had not died yet. Then one evening he claimed his mother came through a wall in his house as a spirit and told him everything was going to be alright. After this apparition left, he immediately called his sister who lived with the mother in another town , and the sister told him , mom just died a few minutes ago. So my son told me he tends to believe dead relatives come back to let us know they are O.K. in the beyond.

I told my son , I respect that he feels that way, but that I'm a little more cynical of it. I guess I feel that way because I have lost a couple close buddies over the years, one in a car crash in 1983, another to a heart attack in 2003, also grandparents, etc. and I've never heard back from any of them. I keep their laughter, good memories in my heart , can see their face in my minds eye , but don't believe they are floating around anywhere. I feel they were buried, and put in the ground and that was the end of the matter .

So, I guess I would feel different if I had a personal experience of talking or seeing some deceased friend or relative, but at this stage , I just feel they are deteriorating in the earth. Certainly doesn't mean I loved em' any less. That is what causes me to be a firm believer in doing good in this life to others , because it's all we got, in my humble opinion. I assume years of droning on by witnesses in my past about live for the future, this is not the real life, etc. got drilled in my head so much I thought it was just stupid. I mean if this is not the real life, show me one more real. Does that mean if this life is not real, I can pinch myself and it won't hurt, because this life is just fake or pretend? From what I can see, this life has been very real to me, all the loves one has in life, the heartaches , the goodtimes, bad times. Last time I checked, yep, I experienced it all. Hey, look I'm not saying I don't totally believe in a afterlife, I'm open to the possibility , in fact my wife and son have said, " If something ever happens to you, once you're on the other side, you have to let us know you are alright. " I said," Yeah, sure, I'll be happy to let you know, if I find out myself." Anyway, that's my take simple. Don't know for sure, but have my doubts about afterlife. That's why I try to live a happy life now, full experiences with loved ones , wife, son, parents, going to beautiful places, mountains, exploring, working hard, staying busy. I just don't know I'll have a chance to do that on the quote " other side ", when I'm gone. So what say you, my friends on this ? How do you feel ? What have you gone through in life that makes you believe in a afterlife or not? Would be interested to hear all your takes. Hope you all are well, Peace out to all, Mr. Flipper

Sad emo

I knew the exact moment when my mum died. We'd been at the hospital with her for several hours whilst they tried to stabilise her for some major surgery. When she went to theatre, the doc told us we may as well go home and get some rest because the operation would be at least 4 hours long.

Back home, about an hour later I 'sensed' her presence in my room, next to the window. I didn't see anything, what made it really odd was that both my cats which had been sleeping also suddenly woke and looked at the same spot by the window, they were completely fixated - so i believe they sensed it too. I knew that at that moment she had died, another 5 minutes later, the phone rang - the hospital told us to get there as quick as we could, although she had died, they were trying to keep her blood pressure up long enough for us to see her physically still alive. They didn't succeed.

8.42am, 3rd January 2005

I don't know where we go, but I know we go on...

PopeOfEruke

Well I'll be going to the cemetary or the crematorium - not sure which one yet...

Pope

journey-on

Yes. I definitely believe your spirit? soul? consciousness? continues on in another realm of existence.

ex-nj-jw

I won't believe it until I experience it or not!

nj

REBORNAGAIN

I think we will be off to another realm, whether it's heaven, another planet or on the other side. Either way...we will survive, everyone, including the wicked. I think God loves us all enough to give everyone another chance and who knows, maybe we did live a former life and were wicked back then and he gave us another chance and this time we did better. Who knows. I'll wait until I die to find out. Anyone care to join me in the other realm someday?

LINDA

jaguarbass

what say you, my friends on this ? How do you feel ? What have you gone through in life that makes you believe in a afterlife or not? Would be interested to hear all your takes. Hope you all are well, Peace out to all, Mr. Flipper

Hello Mr. Flipper, I coudnt say it any better than you have.

What have I gone thru that makes me believe in the afterlife. I personally havent experienced anything. Maybe because I do not encourage my psychic abilities. I am psychicly numb.

My father died in the past 5 years. My mother and brother who are "out there." Or more politely encourage their psychic abilities have communicated with my dead father. He turns lights off and on in his house that my mother and brother still lives in. Young 5 year old children have talked to him in the basement. My brothers dead dogs have come back and sat by his bed.

My brother has done psychic work for free for others and contacted dead loved ones. He has also gone out of body and met othe living people out of body. Wherever it is that they go when they leave their bodies.

This address here is a resource he used to develop his abilities.

http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com/

Like 99% of everything in this life there is a fee for knowledge and materials.

Thats not to say that you might find this info for free at the library.

Satanus

Jag

It's a good site, imo. Although, as w everything, there is still some fluff. I used to spend a lot of time on that site. Did quite a few of the practices for quite a while.

S

truthseeker

The Bible is correct on this one - the dead are conscious of nothing.

I was raised in the "truth", but this element of what happens when we die has been in the biblical text thousands of years prior to the JW movement.

If our sorrow and pain at the loss of a loved one was equally matched by the loved one in the spirit realm, we would know about it. Our ancestral "spirits' would

do as much as possible to make contact with us. Why would they not? If I died and became a spirit I would want to reassure my parents etc that I was OK and would look out for them.

The fact that it doesn't happen like this is proof that the dead are conscious of nothing. Immortal spirit creatures who have been around longer than any man

are able to replicate and duplicate sensory perception and pretend that our dead loved ones exist.

It's a bitter pill to swallow. The JW religion promised me I wouldn't grow old and could live forever. Problem is, they didn't own the product.

I'm fairly young, but now I'm more conscious of time - time wasted is time lost, best to make the most of it.

This is the real life, the one we have now. We are thrown all sorts of obstacles, some are our fault and some aren't but we have to make the most of what we're given.

truthseeker

Forgot to add the lack of certainty about anything anymore.

The Bible says 144,000 will go to heaven. Is it a literal number? I don't know. Just because it's repeated twice does not make it literal.

So, if some go to heaven and most don't how can we ever know who goes where?

Where Do We Really Go When We Die ?

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