Posts by Gadget

all the things i hear from the platform, and the things that elders have said to me just reinforce the fact that i want nothing at all to do with this organisation anymore.

People who've been reading my posts will know I've been trying to get reinstated so I can get back together with my girlfriend/fiance. The more time goes on, the less I feel able to do that. All the things I hear from the platform, and the things that elders have said to me just reinforce the fact that I want nothing at all to do with this organisation anymore. I can't make myself pretend to get reinstated, I feel too strongly about it now. I've recently moved into my own house, so I don't have to worry about what presure I'll get off my parents so much now. I feel so much more liberated and less stressed since I moved out. The only is what do I now do about my girlfriend. She keeps on saying how much she misses me, and that she'll end up just turning up on my doorstep with all her stuff, but she's also said that she'd rather I slept with someone else rather than if I turned apostate. She wants us to run off and get married, but I think this would cause more problems. I read someones post this morning(Can't remember who it was and can't find it now) where they said of a couple who admited to sleeping together and had to go to a 24hr wedding chapel to get married. She was in tears, and they had a lot of problems and a very bad start to they're marraige. I don't want this to happen, and also I've been married and had a very very messy divorce. I was in a bad way for a long time, and I'm not going to jump straight back into that position again. So how do I tell her? I've been thinking with telling her I've been posting here, and giving a link to my profile page/topic history ect. If I told her what I realy thought of the witnesses I think she'd walk away, but at least that would give me a clean break to get on with my life, but I'd be worried about what effect it would have on her. What do you think?

Paul

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WTS SAYS ELDERS SINS DON'T COUNT!

by Amazing in

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sometime ago i posted a discussion on h20 about the nov. 1991 kingdom ministry school for elders / ms held at woodburn, oregon.

during that school session the co stated that elders who commit a serious sin, even a gross sin, did not have to be removed if the event took place two or three years prior, and the elder continued to be respected, giving evidence of jehovahs blessing.

the co stipulated that this only applied to elders and ms and not to regular publishers.

Gadget

This article explains a few things to me. About 2 years ago I had a shepherding call during which some of me past 'indiscretions' came to light. I was told that they had happened in the past, and I had shown fruits of repentance since then so there would be no need for a jc. I never understood at the time how this happened, but they were obviously following this article.

Incidently, the elders who said this to me; one had stepped down a few months before I was DF'd(He and his friend always stop to talk when they see me out), and the other was DF'd about a month after I was.

Gadget

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Having It Both Ways?--A Defining Characteristic

by blondie in

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i was reading on another website and found this post.

the poster said i could post it here.

it shows why it is hard to reason with anyone in the organization.. when individuals leave the organization for conscience reasons, it is evidence that god is shepherding and protecting the flock by doing a sifting work.

Gadget

Thanks, this is great stuff.

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Having a Bad Day.....

by Ravyn in

having a bad day?

there was a case in one hospital's intensive care ward where patients always died in the same bed, on sunday morning, at about 11 a.m., regardless of their medical condition.

this puzzled the doctors and some even thought that it had something to do with the supernatural.

Gadget

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Picture of where you live

by RAYZORBLADE in

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for some of us on this forum, we're so far away from one another.

out of curiosity, do any of you have any photos of where you are from, or the communities that you live in?

here's one of toronto.

Gadget

www.durhamtourism.co.uk

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What do the 'Pillars of the Congregation' think of new light

by Gadget in

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i was reading a post on another thread about a 70yr old sister who's husband was a pillar of the circuit in times past now just drowned out most of what she heard from the platform as someones personal oppinion and served jehovah the way she felt was right.

is this typical of someone who has been in the org for that long, the difference being that she felt comfortable enough with the people concerned to actually voice it?

what about the people who joined in the 20s and 30s and have seen all the new light coming in over the years, has any asked them how different it all is now to the religion they joined?.

Gadget

I was reading a post on another thread about a 70yr old sister who's husband was a pillar of the circuit in times past now just drowned out most of what she heard from the platform as someones personal oppinion and served Jehovah the way she felt was right. Is this typical of someone who has been in the org for that long, the difference being that she felt comfortable enough with the people concerned to actually voice it? What about the people who joined in the 20s and 30s and have seen all the new light coming in over the years, has any asked them how different it all is now to the religion they joined?

Gadget

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Sleeping with the lights on tonight !

by Angharad in

.....we just watched a scary film - the ring anyone else seen it?.

its about a video tape that you watch and then seven days later you die!

(this wont spoil it if you've not seen it because thats what it says on the box!).

Gadget

I just got hold of a copy of The Ring, I'm going to watch it later on after a few beers.

Gadget

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Question: What keeps the Watchtower Society going?

by Vitameatavegamin in

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hello folks, it's been awhile since i have posted, hope everyone is doing well!

i have a question, though, if the society is not paying the governing body, or other "big wigs" in ny large salaries, what would be the motivating factor for the society to continue to exist?

i am not saying that money is everything, but if none of the money is going into pockets, then the society must really feel that they are god's chosen channel, or something to that effect.

Gadget

If the entire governing body resigned tomorrow, would the organization continue?

It would depend on why they resigned. If they turned apostate and went public then it would probably cause the org to fragment. Qwerty told me a story about the witnesses in Romania, they were cut of from the rest of the world and accused brooklyn of going apostate because of all the new light when they got back in contact. All the branch offfices would probably do the same. If they resigned for other reasons then would it not just be the same as when all the directors resigned the other year?

Gadget

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Question: What keeps the Watchtower Society going?

by Vitameatavegamin in

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hello folks, it's been awhile since i have posted, hope everyone is doing well!

i have a question, though, if the society is not paying the governing body, or other "big wigs" in ny large salaries, what would be the motivating factor for the society to continue to exist?

i am not saying that money is everything, but if none of the money is going into pockets, then the society must really feel that they are god's chosen channel, or something to that effect.

Gadget

I don't see how they could all believe it. The ones at the top can see the whole thing, including all the things we hear about on here that convinces us of its falseness but the average witness knows very little about. If they saw all that and still believed, they must be pretty dumb and pretty dumb people don't normally rise to the top of a huge corporation.

I think its a combination of power, and knowing how much you've given up when you did believe, and do you really want to give up every single thing in your life you've worked so hard to acheive?

Gadget