I would choose option #2. Living for only one year longer is a small price to pay given that I would know all the secrets of the Universe. Compared to living a few extra years and then dying in ignorance, it's an easy choice for me.
NAVYTOWN
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I Offer You This Choice
by simon17 insuppose the following choice were offered you, and you had to choose one or the other.
which would you pick (and perhaps why):.
1) you can continue living your life as it is, die when you might, and that's that.. 2) you can instead agree to die in 1 year in exchange for this: you will be granted access to the entire past and future history of intelligent life in the universe.
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Not invited to my nephews wedding
by outforever inknew that this would be the case - so not surprised.
quite happy to not go - as i would not like to see my mother / or my big sister at all.
this nephew is my small sisters son - my small sister and myself are very close - she does not go to the meetings anymore for quite a while now, her eyes have been opened.
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NAVYTOWN
I would personally never speak to a JW, whether relative or not, who shunned me, didn't invite me to weddings, funerals, family get-togethers, etc. Just because THEY have a later change of heart and decide I am 'OK', I am not going to forgive them or associate with them. They made their bed, now let them lie in it!! Maybe my attitude is unfair, but that's the way I see it. Once they choose to shun me, it's goodbye forever from my perspective. Family included! Screw them and their silly religion!!
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How many Isaiah's prophecies of chapter 19 were fulfilled?
by opusdei1972 ini have read the chapter 19 of isaiah, which scholars of high criticism believe to be authentic, of isaiah himself.
in this chapter there are more than one prophecy for egypt.
my question is, how many of them you found fullfilled and unfulfilled?....
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NAVYTOWN
Stop living in the Past. Come up to Present Time.
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What a Quaint Timeline they've made - Fulfilling almost every prophet y in the bible in a 20 Year Span.
by objectivetruth ini just saw this and was amazed by it :.
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200271564.
1914, 1,260 days begin (re 11:3): re 164; w94 8/1 31; w93 11/1 9-10. appointed times of the nations end (lu 21:24): w06 7/15 6-7; bh 215-218; w04 2/1 19-20; jv 134-142, 635-636. forty-two months begin (re 11:2; 13:5): re 162-164, 192. fulfillment of transfiguration vision begins (mt 17; mr 9; lu 9): w97 5/15 11. heavenly woman bears son (re 12:1-5): re 177-180. jehovah comes as a strong one (isa 40:10): ip-1 406. kingdom established: w12 8/1 16-17; w06 7/15 6-7; bh 84-85; jv 138-139; lmn 23-24. king of the north comes against the south (da 11:29): dp 261-262, 264; w93 11/1 14. kings take stand against jehovah and his anointed (ps 2:1, 2): w90 7/1 27-28. last days begin: rs 239-240. lords day begins (re 1:10): re 22, 24; w03 5/15 10. mountain of olive trees split (zec 14:4): w13 2/15 19. once held to be year when great tribulation began: w13 7/15 3-4. root of jesse will stand up (isa 11:10): ip-1 165-166. sacred secret brought to a finish (re 10:7): re 171-172; w90 1/15 20. seven times end (da 4): w06 7/15 6-7; re 22, 24; bh 216-218; dp 96-97, 301; kl 97; pe 138-141; rs 95-97; it-1 134-135; w86 11/1 4-7. shiloh receives right to obedience of the peoples (ge 49:10): w02 10/1 19. the time appointed (da 11:29): dp 261; w93 11/1 13-14. time, times, and half a time begin (da 7:25; 12:7): dp 142-143, 294-296; w94 8/1 31; w93 11/1 9-10. times of restoration begin (ac 3:21): bt 31; cl 77-78; w87 3/1 28. true lord and messenger of the covenant come to spiritual temple (mal 3:1): w13 7/15 11-12.
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NAVYTOWN
I always knew the Bible and the Watchtower were both filled with total nonsense, and all this rubbish proves my point without a doubt. Grow up, People, and learn to live in present time. Time to view the Bible as the silly old book it is.
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Any Educated Guesses...........??
by sparky1 ina friend of mine is trying the 'slow fade' like i did.
he is a third generation witness and comes from a prominent family in his circuit.
his uncle stepped down as an elder because he had doubts and could not serve anymore (although for now he remains a witness in good standing).
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NAVYTOWN
I predict that Anthony Morris (The Turd )'s stupidity will come back to bite him in the ass one day soon. Most megalomaniacs sooner or later end up crashing and burning. It won't surprise me in the least if he is arrested in a public men's restroom getting it on with a young male prostitute. We can only hope!!!
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ELDER LIES AND GET'S PRAISED FOR IT! FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME!
by BucketShopBill inwant to know how a lie can turn into a compliment?
only in the jw mindset!!!.
we got called into the dreaded back room after meeting to find two elders wanting to discuss a 'serious' matter with us.
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NAVYTOWN
One simple way to deflect this sort of thing is to just tell the Elders when they 'invite' you to the back room: 'I'm afraid I have nothing to discuss with you. Should that change I will let you know immediately'. Repeat as necessary. Of course, the REAL solution is to just walk out and never come back. You really don't need some sub-par IQ elders butting into your personal affairs. Just LEAVE!!!
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ELDER LIES AND GET'S PRAISED FOR IT! FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME!
by BucketShopBill inwant to know how a lie can turn into a compliment?
only in the jw mindset!!!.
we got called into the dreaded back room after meeting to find two elders wanting to discuss a 'serious' matter with us.
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NAVYTOWN
Several years ago, I was studying with a Witness MS. He related a story about a Witness who was supposedly seen by 'someone' smoking a cigarette in a restaurant. Well, he said it turned out the offending Witness was eating a CHEESE STICK which the busybody assumed was a cigarette. That is about when I decided that JWs were officially nuts.
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Delusional E-mail from my dad.. So sad
by BU2B ini sent my dad the fred franz talk "my story" when he somewhat candidly discusses the failed prophecies, 1925 etc.
i was hoping it would plant a seed of doubt in his heart.
however my parents eat sleep and breathe wt.
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NAVYTOWN
I tend to agree with the previous posts, it sounds like there is nothing that will wake them up. They obviously get emotional satisfaction from being JWs. Why spend your time fruitlessly trying to Change them? Go ahead and live your life according to your own beliefs. At least you woke up at an early age. No need to rock the boat trying to influence your parents.
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JW.ORG has competition!!
by sparky1 ineven the mennonites won't be left behind in having an out of date and hard to use website!
this announcement was 2 months ago but still is rather interesting.
"we are pleased to announce that a new mennonite church usa website will be launched over the weekend of july 5-6!
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NAVYTOWN
I once visited a Mennonite family near San Diego. They lived in a rather typical suburban house. They had cars, and seemingly most modern conveniences. The males of the household ( father and teenage sons) all wore beards and long-sleeve shirts. They conducted a religious service in their living room. They seemed to be very sincere and pleasant folks. After the service, they invited me to their back yard where I joined them in picking figs. I took home a nice box of figs and found the experience quite educational. In retrospect, they seemed a lot less brainwashed than the typical JW. That was my one and only experience with Mennonites.
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Debunking the Bible
by Coded Logic inthere seems to be an endless number of ways to show the bible is not devinely inspired but all of it seems so complicated.
anyone know any simple arguements for this?
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NAVYTOWN
What IS it with all this endless hand-wringing concerning the Bible???It's just a collection of stories written a couple of thousand years ago by relatively primitive people. Much of it was not actually written by the ones claimed to be the authors. Flights of fancy about talking snakes, devils and demons, etc. Who actually, in 2014, really believes all that nonsense???? With all the scientific knowledge humans have acquired since the Bible was written, why do people still slavishly see it as the ultimate source of wisdom??? Time to put the Bible out to pasture and concentrate on the here & now instead of believing in ancient scribblings.