Posts by AFRIKANMAN

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what type of faith do you REALLY want?

by atheist_R_stupid in

i find that when talking people who say they "used to be a jehovah's witness" they say words that show they have in fact, never been one.

it's like a man that worked for the post office for 30 years in a main major urban hub like chicago or new york... and you ask him, "in your last position, what was your rdo?

" and the man says "whats an rdo?".

Why I like Jehovah's Witnesses

by undercover witness in

i keep reading that jehovah's witnesses are in effect monsters.

i keep reading that they kinda leave chaos and distrust in their wake.

so i simply wondered if anyone had anything nice to say about them?.

AFRIKANMAN

Undercover...................

If this is indeed a sincere attempt at expressing yourself ...........You have walked into a hornets nest ...........so lets default to the possibility that you lack a lot of "insight" on JW's -

Of course there is the possibility that you are making all of this up and hiding behind the Avatar - perhaps to sincerely express some feelings or just to P-off a lot a people.

Either way you have learned that its pretty well Kamakazi stuff here and you are going to have to take heat !....

And have the facts.................

btw all my Non-JW relatives and friends are very nice people too! They are all very principled whether religious or not !

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What I Saw & Heard in the Oral Argument Hearing on January 14, 2015

by ABibleStudent in

im not an attorney and i could not record the hearing, so please forgive me if i make mistakes in relating what i remember of the oral argument hearing for jane doe (i.e., candace conti) versus the watchtower bible & tract society on january 14, 2015 and the length of this post.. i arrived at the civic center/union plaza in san francisco, ca about 7:30. the area is very nice with a few homeless people sleeping in the park across from the courthouse.

it took me about 10 minutes to find the clerks office for the court on the first floor, which opened at 8:00.. once the clerks office opened, the two clerks who i talked with were very polite and helpful.

the arguments for jane doe (i.e., candace conti) versus the watchtower bible & tract society were scheduled 5th out of (i think) 8. while i was in the office a cameraman and another person for nbc arrived asking about the hearing for candace contis case.. the courtroom for the 1st appellate court is on the 4th floor and takes up most of that floor.

AFRIKANMAN

1- Thank you ABS for such a professional presentation ! And effort on your part.

2- If we are hoping for or looking for the "ultimate take-down" of the WTS its probably not going to happen - Many years ago when I first stumbled on the UN-NGO issue [via this forum btw] I thought wow this has got to be it ! but it wasn't.

So we will grind on .................

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Will the WTS follow the McDonald's corporate model?

by sir82 in

jw
friends

as most people know, mcdonald's derives the principal part of its earnings, not from greasy food, but from real estate.. they buy property, then, in addition to charging franchisees for the right to use their name, they charge them rent for the building sitting on corporately-owned real estate.. this business model yields well over $20 billion per year in gross revenue.. could this be the idea behind the soon-to-come revamp of the rbcs into ldcs?

the wts will purchase property and charge its "franchisees" (the congregations) a fee to use the building on the site?.

of course, it wouldn't be called a "franchise fee" or even "rent", it would be named something like a "voluntary contribution to support kingdom interests" or some such folderol.. any "non-performing" congregations would get shut down and/or merged, and the property sold.

AFRIKANMAN

McD's have Ronald..................WTS has Stephen and Toni III -

Would one be able to request a "play area" be built on the KH property ? Could be a coup for getting meeting attendances up!

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"You insulted our Prophet" similarities with WTS / Paris attacks

by AFRIKANMAN in

"this is from the nov. 15th 1952 question from readers.

this is directly from the cd btw:

questions from readers in the case of where a father or mother or son or daughter is disfellowshipped ,how should such person be treated by members of the family in their family relationship?p.c.,ontario, canada.

AFRIKANMAN

I think some have got my point and apologies for not expressing myself more clearly !

You have to be pretty thick-skinned sometimes on this forum -

Its mental attitudes I was comparing -

The events in Paris were horrific and tragic !

[Nevertheless lets not "attack" each other with our expressions here on the Forum - many do come here to get away from things / find solice etc ]

FINIS

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"You insulted our Prophet" similarities with WTS / Paris attacks

by AFRIKANMAN in

"this is from the nov. 15th 1952 question from readers.

this is directly from the cd btw:

questions from readers in the case of where a father or mother or son or daughter is disfellowshipped ,how should such person be treated by members of the family in their family relationship?p.c.,ontario, canada.

AFRIKANMAN

No - JWs are sick for "killing of their own " for voicing dissent - I think you need the sanity check

Are you actually reading what I am implying THE MIND SET focus on the MindSet - the mentality The overriding power of "the WT Prophet" today

And stop trying to hide behind your Avatar and attack me - dialogue - discuss - don't attack ! had enough of you and your types when I was in !

This info appears on the CD ROM

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"You insulted our Prophet" similarities with WTS / Paris attacks

by AFRIKANMAN in

"this is from the nov. 15th 1952 question from readers.

this is directly from the cd btw:

questions from readers in the case of where a father or mother or son or daughter is disfellowshipped ,how should such person be treated by members of the family in their family relationship?p.c.,ontario, canada.

AFRIKANMAN

"This is from the Nov. 15th 1952 question from readers. This is directly from the CD btw:

Questions from Readers
•In the case of where a father or mother or son or daughter is disfellowshipped ,how should such person be treated by members of the family in their family relationship?—P.C.,Ontario, Canada.
We are not living today among theocratic nations where such members of our fleshly family relationship could be exterminated for apostasy from God and his theocratic organization, as was possible and was ordered in the nation of Israel in the wilderness of Sinai and in the land of Palestine. "Thou shalt surely kill him; thy hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him to death with stones, because he hath sought to draw thee away from Jehovah thy God, . . . And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is in the midst of thee."—Deut. 13:6-11,AS.
Being limited by the laws of the worldly nation in which we live and also by the laws of God through Jesus Christ, we can take action against apostates only to a certain extent, that is, consistent with both sets of laws. The law of the land and God’s law through Christ forbid us to kill apostates, even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship. However, God’s law requires us to recognize their being disfellowshipped from his congregation, and this despite the fact that the law of the land in which we live requires us under some natural obligation to live with and have dealings with such apostates under the same roof."

I don't see much of a difference in the reasons given for the attacks in Paris and the way the WTS treats members who dare "insult our Prophet" !

Don't you just love the use of the word "exterminated" - like the way one deals with cockroaches !

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An unconfirmed report of a JW Murder in Mozambique

by Slidin Fast in

a couple from the uk, international construction volunteers, were living in a trailer whilst building a translation facility in mozambique.

a gang attacked them with machetes and stole everything they owned.

the couple were flown back to the branch in south africa.

AFRIKANMAN

Memorial Talk for this very special person is at 18h00 tonight South African time [UTC +2] at the Bethel Home.

Bethel Family support for his wife Dalene and the affected families has been outstanding - Lets say something when it has to be said.

A lot of family had to get over from Aussie, Canada and UK -

Exact details of the assault I have not yet obtained. I am pretty cut up about this myself. There are so many very special personalities in the Borg - unique people. And this makes it even sadder still.

Cape Town - South Africa

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urban legends

by chirac in

dear brothers ans sisters.

i just received this mail in french..(thank you google to have translates it)..this mail is from a still inside brother who encourage to come back.

do you think its a fact or an other urban legend.

AFRIKANMAN

Back in the day I placed a "Truth" book with Elvis and he got all shook up about it !

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An unconfirmed report of a JW Murder in Mozambique

by Slidin Fast in

a couple from the uk, international construction volunteers, were living in a trailer whilst building a translation facility in mozambique.

a gang attacked them with machetes and stole everything they owned.

the couple were flown back to the branch in south africa.

AFRIKANMAN

I know the victim personally and he was indeed murdered when the gang came back to the facility - a translation office which as has been mentioned was previously broken into. I am awaiting full details from family members. His name is Hilton Tunstall and he was married to Dalene. She was not with him at the time. We grew up together. Top class human-being.