Dis,
A world just as you described but completely dedicated to the GB. As disgraceful as that would be - to both society and God - The GB would have it no other way.
TTATTelder
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The day the music died
by Rattigan350 ini commented about how the 2008 yearbook gives the story of a girl who is on estonia idol and gives up an opportunity to progress to further rounds because she has a talk on the theocratic ministry school.
when jws started to study with her, that is the day the music died.. .
while watching the grammys, though most was trash the music from the 70s was great, i thought, what if paul mccartney's parents studied with jws and paul didn't become a musician.
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We Pray For The Governing Body...
by jw07 inat the meetings i've noticed over the past 2 years or so brothers asking for 'special blessings' for the governing body.
it was everyonce in a while at first.
now it is almost at every single meeting!
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TTATTelder
Yeah I do see it.
One elder literally said he would follow them off a cliff.
This brother checks the website for new letters from the branch every few hours throughout the day. Everyday.
That kind of devotion is sick and dangerous, but is NEVER looked down upon in the org. It is seen as evidence of faith.
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What is with the WT obsession with King David??
by BU2B init seems like at least once a month he is brought up as a good example in the study wt.
it seems like he is given more praise than jesus.
have you noticed this?
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TTATTelder
Firstly they see themselves in David for sure.
"He may have murdered some people and gave in to some fleshly indulgences, but deep down he was a decent guy and Jehovah still approved of him."
That storyline gives a blank check to the GB. So what if a few thousand people die from their playing around with organ/blood doctrine - that's no deal breaker. If they give in to a few secret fleshly indulgences - meh - no big thing. They can just repent since God knows they're good guys deep down - just like David.
jgnat,
I definitely say that the GB on some level fantasize about being God's chosen people like the ancient Israelites portrayed in the OT. It may be the one thread that connects the modern GB all the way back to Rutherford. They all are special to God in their own minds.
Now that I think about it, it may be some mental illness that convinces them of this. I'm sure it has been discussed here before.
The delusion is scary.
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Six word memoirs
by molybdenum ini came across this concept a few days ago.. it is is the story of your life or some part of it told in just 6 words.. you can check it out here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/six-word_memoirs.
thought it might be interesting to connect with life as a witness.. my thoughts:.
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TTATTelder
beware the theological tar pit trap
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Why doesn't god do anything tangible now?
by punkofnice ini was always told that god did loads of stuff that was evidence of his existance.
ususally very brutal things too (b#st@rd).. jesus walked on water and raised the dead we are told.. it seems to me also that the older the story, the more exaggerated it is...y'know...talking snake......global flood.. there are those that claim god speaks to them now and they alone 'know' it.
(cuckoo!!!).
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TTATTelder
Any spirit in heaven could post on this thread right now and give instructions of where we all could see a miracle to prove to all of us their legitimacy.
As a matter of fact, why doesn't someone in heaven write the name of god in the sky and make it stay there for like a month.
Wouldn't that be easier than all this other crap.
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Is The Governing Body Over Jehovah's Witnesses A Bunch Of Arrogant Old Retirees Considering After All That They Claim To Be Christ's Right Hand Man Directing His Dad's Organization On Earth?
by frankiespeakin inthese guys believe that they are running and directing "god's organization" and it is all based on some flimsy parable interpetation about a master who left a slave in charge while he went away with the outcome uncertain upon his return.
not a very solid case to be pointedly honest.
jesus would have made a better choice of donald trump to run his father's business/watchtower corporation, he's less arrogant and doesn't discourage higher education, and plastic children's toys are not a major concern of his.. what is arrogance?.
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TTATTelder
Wow Saul
High-Horse to the gutter in no time flat.
You seem unstable. That's ok though. That's what watchtower does to people.
It takes a long long time to get your head straight.
The difference you will find here is that we understand and people will be here for you when you hit bottom.
Hyper-defensiveness of the dogma is your mind flailing and trying to hang on to what another part of your mind already knows is toast.
jwfacts.com my friend and google " Crisis of Conscience pdf "
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Most Ridiculous Thing You've Ever Been Counseled On
by MrFreeze ini'm sure topics like this have already come up but they tend to get hilarious with the absolute absurdity that goes on in the kh.
i was once counseled for not shaving after two days.
i was also counseled by a sister for eating lucky charms cereal.
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TTATTelder
My wife and I were counseled to not arrive at the Kingdom Hall in separate cars because it looked like we are having marital problems.
The fact that we were coming straight from work didn't matter.
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Is The Governing Body Over Jehovah's Witnesses A Bunch Of Arrogant Old Retirees Considering After All That They Claim To Be Christ's Right Hand Man Directing His Dad's Organization On Earth?
by frankiespeakin inthese guys believe that they are running and directing "god's organization" and it is all based on some flimsy parable interpetation about a master who left a slave in charge while he went away with the outcome uncertain upon his return.
not a very solid case to be pointedly honest.
jesus would have made a better choice of donald trump to run his father's business/watchtower corporation, he's less arrogant and doesn't discourage higher education, and plastic children's toys are not a major concern of his.. what is arrogance?.
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TTATTelder
The venom comes from being lied to.
Not many here were ever emotionally invested in the lies of other religions as can be ascertained by the name of this website.
Maybe you don't get it yet, Saul, but you've been duped.
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The Biggest Fear From The Watchtower Organization Is ???
by minimus ini think the organization is worried most about how jws will stay loyal to their families even as it rejects the admonition of the gb and elders..
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TTATTelder
Their biggest fear right now is that everybody will look at their calendars and say
"2014! What the hell? These dumb arses have been beating this drum for a hundred freaking years!
....the hell with them ....I'm relaxing on Sat mornings and taking a day trip every Sunday."
That's their biggest fear. Thus the double-down on fear, guilt, and authority-structure watchtower lessons.
It's also the reason for all these international conventions - to distract from the obvious embarrassment that this year is.
TTATTelder
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The Watchtower religion(JWS), that really couldn't fail, from beginning to ........
by Finkelstein inwhen one looks back retrospectively at the very beginning of this organization, you could see that the wts.. was on a structural platform of success, created by cunningly created doctrines, such as the invisible return of.
christ, the end times and the imminently soon to come armageddon, all bundled together.. .. this religious organization like so many others established in the united states was unregulated and had.
no upper governing control over its daily operations.. they proclaimed and taught what they wanted to or needed to sustain their operations as a publishing house.. .
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TTATTelder
I am currently an elder and am getting to the point that I just can't stomach it anymore.
It's true about the enforcer stuff. We tell ourselves we are here for the friends, but what are we allowed to even say to them?
It's their (GB's) game. The elders' meetings are 90% about deciphering what the "arrangement" is. In other words "what are the rules?"
It's "christian congregation" this and "christian congregation" that. All the latest buzz words for the governing body and their legal dept. It gets on my nerves.
Men feel powerful and important to represent a large company/organization that has authority.
Honestly it feels like a big ploy for control and continuance of what a bunch of men at the top (and middle) think is a good thing. They have a bunch of people giving them reverence and honour as if they/we represent God. They also have a perfect plan to keep their wives and kids in line. Don't get me started on some elders' preoccupation with the "headship arrangement".