Posts by TTATTelder

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All this talk of Money
by zebagain in
1. forum
2. suggestions
would someone please layout for this simple soul what the wts is doing re 'donations' or 'pledges'.

is the box at the back of the kh to be done away with?.
TTATTelder

The kingdom hall construction box got done away with.

Its now a monthly congregation pledge that comes out of the Local box.

Congregations with loans have no loan "on paper" anymore but are supposed to continue sending in the loan payment or more. (how generous!)

Congregations basically can't have more than about 10 grand on hand. (may choose to have less - how loving!)

All the rest goes to branch for "the greater good worldwide".

So if you have $200,000 in the bank saving for a new hall, you are expected to cut a check to the branch for $190,000+ by the end of the month. If you don't comply, you will find out what the 11th plague was that Jehovah had lined up for Egypt as a backup.

That's the 2 minute version.

-TE
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Is JW.org blocking this site?
by Comatose in
1. watchtower
2. bible
tried accessing a picture linked and got this... access deniedyou don't have permission to access "http://assets.jw.org/assets/m/w14/20140315/w14_20140315.art/2014205_univ_lsr_lg.jpg" on this server.. reference #18.39e24cae.1400781585.632ce346.
TTATTelder

When I first saw that photo I thought someone drew the beard on the boy. LOL

These cornball "sales brochure" pics of dub life are laughable.

-TE
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LOL!!!! HA!!HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
by DATA-DOG in
1. watchtower
2. bible
we get so engrossed in discussions during the family worship evening that it often goes on till late at night if i dont stop my family, .

hahahahahahahahahahah hehehe hahahah!!!!!!.

lol!!!
TTATTelder

Yeah cool video. I like that song too.

I didn't realize it was Kim Cattrall from Sex and the City that was in Mannequin.

-TE
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LOL!!!! HA!!HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
by DATA-DOG in
1. watchtower
2. bible
we get so engrossed in discussions during the family worship evening that it often goes on till late at night if i dont stop my family, .

hahahahahahahahahahah hehehe hahahah!!!!!!.

lol!!!
TTATTelder

Wow that just happened in like the last 1/2 hour.

The branch needs to quit paying attention to apostate sites!

They need to turn the other cheek.

LOL

-TE
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2014! Why are we still here? 100 years since Jesus came back according to JWs.
by tenene in
1. jw
2. friends
hello, i have been offline for quite some time and i know this might have been discussed a great deal, but its burning me, hence i am raising this issue again.

this is also to help the newbies and lurkers.

i thought the 1914 generation would have long passed by at this point and time, and believe they have come up with a new spin to the whole generation issue.
TTATTelder

2014! Why are we still here? 100 years since Jesus came back according to JWs.

The modern jdub excuse goes something like this:

"Well we don't know what Jehovah's timetable is, but we must be soooooooo close now!"

"You know the last days in Noah's time lasted 120 years..."

"We just have to wait on Jehovah...but this old system just can't last much longer!"

etc etc

-TE
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Could the WT have paid of large loans when it sold NY properties?
by StephaneLaliberte in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
it seems that everyone is taking for granted that the sociaty has made 1 billion in profit.

could anyone tell me why it would not be a posibility that the society had a large number of mortgages attached to these properties?

wouldn't that explain the latest monney grab from the congregations?.
TTATTelder

insidethekh:

can you do the math?

they paid peanuts compared with what they get now for the real estate in Brooklyn. They bought lots of it when the market was bad and a lot of those properties were in very bad shape,.. so very cheap.

They sold/sell it when the market is way up and the buildings are in excellent condition.

That math has nothing to do with the possibility of outstanding loans mentioned in the OP.

I don't know if that info can be found in public records. It probably can.

The public info about this new luxury property in Wales says no mortgage.

I personally suspect that the borg is flush with cash, is downsizing, putting away as many millions as possible for the future support of themselves, and putting that money in multiple corp's spread out internationally and as out-of-reach as possible from lawsuits.

It seems that their financial "fears" are dominating the decision making. Are these fears justified? - only time will tell.

-TE
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LOL!!!! HA!!HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
by DATA-DOG in
1. watchtower
2. bible
we get so engrossed in discussions during the family worship evening that it often goes on till late at night if i dont stop my family, .

hahahahahahahahahahah hehehe hahahah!!!!!!.

lol!!!
TTATTelder

You can still right-click and select "open image in new tab"

at least with the chrome browser that is.

-TE
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LOL!!!! HA!!HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
by DATA-DOG in
1. watchtower
2. bible
we get so engrossed in discussions during the family worship evening that it often goes on till late at night if i dont stop my family, .

hahahahahahahahahahah hehehe hahahah!!!!!!.

lol!!!
TTATTelder

Singing "kingdom songs" while camping?

Uhhhh....hell no.

First of all, I hate to tell them, but I have never seen JW's camp without alcohol present.

Actually, now that I think about it, some of the jdub camping scenes I have been a part of are the closest thing to a normal religous experience that can be had in the borg.

Big witness groups have gone camping before and had casual-dressed "sunday meetings" around the campfire. They were sometimes conducted by non-servants with elders in the audience. Comments were more open and honest. It was almost like seeing what a meeting could be like if "big brother" wasn't looking over your shoulder.

The picture above is cornball crap.

-TE
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Could There Be Another Mass Exodus From This Cult?
by mrquik in
1. jw
2. friends
it's happened before.

how much crap can any rational human being take before they just snap & walk away disgusted?.
TTATTelder

I think people will wake up after this 2014 year has come and gone.

It will be easier to see in hindsight, IMO, that this year was all a glorious distraction.

The borg will not be able to keep up this level of activity. People will feel the obvious lull and have time to think.

You could see the numbers drop in 2015 for the first time in many years.

It may continue to slowly drop going forward. I personally hope to see this.

-TE
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...The WBT$ Theft of Kingdom Hall Bank Accounts and JW Elders...
by OUTLAW in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
.. the new wbt$ donation arrangement/ jw kingdom hall bank account theft... is a very hot topic right now... the wbt$ is literally going to clean out kingdom hall bank accounts,filled with donations from jws... that theft is going to happen world wide..the wbt$ is going to steal from 7 million plus jw`s... .. we have jw elders here on jwn,that know whats going on... they "serve" in kingdom halls,they are "supposed" to be looking after the welfare of the average jw... they know there is a 4 page letter,only one page will be read to the congregation..the rest will be kept secret... they know the wbt$ is about to steal jw donations..on a world wide scale!!!...

.. i would like to know what you active jw elders are going to do about this??!!...

are you going to let "your" congregation know about the other 3 secret pages?...
TTATTelder

Tizzy,

I think they are saying:

Don't have a local needs part telling the dubs - "We were short last month so pony up the difference."

But rather, remind them of their commitment going forward.

The letter is attempting to ramp up financial pressure but still appear balanced.

-TE

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2014! Why are we still here? 100 years since Jesus came back according to JWs.