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  Great Crowd Bible Question

  by lambsbottom in

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  reasoning book says:.

  *** rs p. 167 heaven ***.

  do those of the great crowd referred to at revelation 7:9, 10 also go to heaven?.

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  Thanks y'all.

  Yes, I have researched and see that the great crowd are in the inner temple. Thanks JWfacts!

  But, the WT throws it for a loop when it says:

  Reasoning Book says:

  *** rs p. 167 Heaven ***
  Do those of the “great crowd” referred to at Revelation 7:9, 10 also go to heaven?
  Revelation does not say of them, as it does of the 144,000, that they are “bought from the earth” to be with Christ on heavenly Mount Zion.—Rev. 14:1-3.

  I have been having some discussions with the Bible Students regarding this and they still gotta get back to me with research. Is the great crowd also "bought" from earth, even though it only mentions that the 144K are?
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  Great Crowd Bible Question

  by lambsbottom in

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  reasoning book says:.

  *** rs p. 167 heaven ***.

  do those of the great crowd referred to at revelation 7:9, 10 also go to heaven?.

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  Reasoning Book says:

  *** rs p. 167 Heaven ***
  Do those of the “great crowd” referred to at Revelation 7:9, 10 also go to heaven?
  Revelation does not say of them, as it does of the 144,000, that they are “bought from the earth” to be with Christ on heavenly Mount Zion.—Rev. 14:1-3.

  Anyone have a response to this? WT is trying to debunk thought that of Rev. 7:9,10 is not in heaven.

  Wouldn't "great crowd" in heaven also need to be "bought from earth".
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  Current Doctrine On Who Will Be Saved?

  by lambsbottom in

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  can someone give me the latest doctrine on whether jws believe any people ignorant of the 'truth' or not preached to will be also spared?.

  or, is it anyone that is not in the ark of the org dead?.

  need reference showing current teaching and not the lie at jw.org faq about salvation!.

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  Can someone give me the latest doctrine on whether JWs believe any people ignorant of the 'truth' or not preached to will be also spared?

  Or, is it anyone that is not in the ark of the org dead?

  Need reference showing current teaching and not the lie at JW.org FAQ about salvation!
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  Meeting With A Very Small Group Of Bible Students Tonight

  by lambsbottom in

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  just wanted to chat with them and see how they think.

  anything i should know before besides the basics?.

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  @raymondfrantz

  yeah. im meeting with a couple. no, they are wrong until proven right. i expect to achieve broadening my horizons. dont wanna start drinking kool aid anytime soon. however, they are less threatening, at least in their proclaimed beliefs. no heirarchy.

  @all for show

  filled out information form from www.internationalbiblestudents.com/ and one of them email me.
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  Meeting With A Very Small Group Of Bible Students Tonight

  by lambsbottom in

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  just wanted to chat with them and see how they think.

  anything i should know before besides the basics?.

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  Just wanted to chat with them and see how they think. Anything I should know before besides the basics?
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  The Moonies Marriage

  by lambsbottom in

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  http://abcnews.go.com/nightline/video/young-unification-church-members-prepare-arranged-marriages-23309522.

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  http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/video/young-unification-church-members-prepare-arranged-marriages-23309522
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  2014 AGM announcement rumour

  by yadda yadda 2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from barbara anderson, former watchtower headquarters researcher and writer, on another recent thread:.

  it is expected that at the 2014 annual meeting, usually held the first saturday in october, will serve watchtower leaders well to cover-up all the 100-years of prophetic nonsense.

  rumor has it they are going to celebrate their 100-years of announcing the kingdom in an adroit way by featuring a move of "great" significance to do with the expansion of the governing body to an "apostolic" 12 or some other fantasy idea.. .

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  This makes complete sense.
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  Inserting the Governing Body in Scriptures

  by lambsbottom in

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  a church divided over leaders10 i appeal to you, brothers and sisters,[a] in the name of our lord jesus christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought.11 my brothers and sisters, some from chloes household have informed me that there are quarrels among you.12 what i mean is this: one of you says, i follow [the governing body]; another, i follow [the organization]; another, i follow [jehovah's witnesses] [b]; still another, i follow christ.. 13 is christ divided?

  was [the governing body] crucified for you?

  were you baptized in the name of [the governing body]?14 i thank god that i did not baptize any of you except crispus and gaius,15 so no one can say that you were baptized in my name.16 (yes, i also baptized the household of stephanas; beyond that, i dont remember if i baptized anyone else.

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  A Church Divided Over Leaders

  10 I appeal to you, brothers and sisters, [a] in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought. 11 My brothers and sisters, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12 What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow [the Governing Body]”; another, “I follow [the Organization]”; another, “I follow [Jehovah's Witnesses] [b] ”; still another, “I follow Christ.”

  13 Is Christ divided? Was [the Governing Body] crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of [the Governing Body]? 14 I thank God that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius, 15 so no one can say that you were baptized in my name. 16 (Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don’t remember if I baptized anyone else.) 17 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel—not with wisdom and eloquence, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.

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  Russell preaching scripture

  by lambsbottom in

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  does anyone know how russell felt about the whole ' this good news of the kingdom would be preached unto all the earth' scripture?

  any idea how modern international bible students would explain it.

  ya know, because jws beat their chests and say ' we are true christians because we are fulfilling this work.. .

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  Does anyone know how Russell felt about the whole ' this good news of the kingdom would be preached unto all the earth' scripture? Any idea how modern international bible students would explain it. Ya know, because JWs beat their chests and say ' we are true Christians because we are fulfilling this work.
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  More Elaborate Celebrations International Conv. Atlanta

  by NoMoreHustle in

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  2. experiences

  found this video of the entertainment preperation for the delegates in atlanta, u.s. this seems to be professionally done maybe outside sources or probably done by "professional" jw's.

  this is just like christendom or all the other religious organizations that they deem to be from the devil.

  the people seem to be very sincere in there efforts & is much appreciated,.

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  This religion has changed soooo much! LOL. It is not the one I grew up in during the 90's!

  Turning more into Mormonism. LOL

  Seriously, I just laughed inside so hard when I watched this video.