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JW.ORG Poker Game
by The Searcher in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
come and join the jw.org worldwide poker game.. all you need to join, is all you have.

just put it all on the table.. you can play as little or as often as you want - as long as you play.. if you decide to fold and walk away, you leave everything you brought to the table, as well as everything you gained!.

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lambsbottom

Searcher: You have a PM.
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Matthew 24:36-37
by lambsbottom in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
matthew 24: 36 concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the son, but only the father.

37 for just as the days of noah were, so the presence (parousia) of the son of man will be.. i had always thought jws took 36 as meaning christ's coming at armageddon (erchomai), after the 1914 presence (parousia).

however, the greek word in 37 is parousia.
lambsbottom

Matthew 24:
36 “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence (parousia) of the Son of man will be.

I had always thought JWs took 36 as meaning Christ's coming at Armageddon (erchomai), after the 1914 presence (parousia). However, the greek word in 37 is parousia. So, verse 36 is talking about Christ coming at Armageddon? Or, is it talking about the parousia? We were always told the "day" is when Jesus comes to kill all non-jws.
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Quick Question Regarding Ransom
by lambsbottom in
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2. beliefs
okay so according to the latest study wt, the annointed are considered.

"being considered to be without sin in gods eyes,they would in asense be like jesus, the sinless son ofgod.".

10/15/2014 wt study.
lambsbottom

@ cofty:

Nice reference!

So, it looks like Great Crowd (GC) JWs are actually 'piggybacking' on the baptism of the Annointed to get through Armageddon. No wonder JWs are told they have to obey the Annointed without question and their salvation depends on that obedience! I can see changed doctrine eventually being that only the GB are the remaining Annointed.

What business, then, do great crowd JWs have in getting baptized now? It is certainly not necessary. Unless, they are truly getting baptized into the Annointed (as in, the Annointed is their Jesus - e.g. mediator).

It makes much more sense, considering all of this, that the separating of the Sheep and Goats is done, not at Armageddon, but after millenial rule is over! Why? Because, according to the WT, the Great Crowd has not been washed clean of sins. They are only "relatively righteous". So, how can they be counted as Sheep if they are not even washed of their sins!

Remember, the parable of the sheep and the goats says of the Sheep, " but the righteous into eternal life". Again, how could the Great Crowd go into eternal life if they have not been washed clean from the ransom. My impression has always been that the GC would have to stay faithful after Armageddon all the way until the 1,000 year rule was over. Every JW knows that the Sheep are not given eternal life right away. However, remember that WT says the Goats of that parable go immediately into "eternal destruction".

OMG!
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Quick Question Regarding Ransom
by lambsbottom in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
okay so according to the latest study wt, the annointed are considered.

"being considered to be without sin in gods eyes,they would in asense be like jesus, the sinless son ofgod.".

10/15/2014 wt study.
lambsbottom

Okay so according to the latest study WT, the annointed are considered

"Being considered to be without sin in God’s eyes,they would in a
sense be like Jesus, the sinless Son of
God."

10/15/2014 WT Study

So, when does the ransom take effect for the great crowd? I know it takes effect for the annointed when they are baptized and receive holy spirit. it is then they that are proven sinless. i know this isnt so for the great crowd. the great crowd makes it out of the tribulation and have "washed their robes in the blood of the lamb" (Rev. 7). So my question is, when does WT believe the great crowd will have benefits of ransom applied in behalf of their sin? references please!
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I Waited Until My Wedding Night To Lose My Virginity And I Wish I Hadn't...
by Divergent in
1. social
2. relationships
i found this article interesting & just wanted to share.

after going through my teenage years trying to be the perfect jw, i realized that trying to live up to the standards imposed on me have been for worse & not for better.

i was feeling miserable, repressed, unfulfilled, with a great lack of self confidence & self esteem.
lambsbottom

Sorry to say the following but...

Wah, wah, wah. Buy some lubricant and get over it. Sorry, but thousands of people die every day just from starvation. First-world problems.
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Night and Day from GB to Writing committee? Someone explain?
by thedepressedsoul in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
im sure by now most of you are familiar with anthony morris talk from this weekend.

im even seeing memes posted all over instagram from jw mocking it.. here is my question, why are the things written so different from how the gb members, like anthony morris are?

i know the gb dont actually write the stuff but i was under the impression that they come up with the spiritual light pass if off to the writing committee and they put it in the publications.
lambsbottom

And you are smoking crack if ya think there.will ever be an apology or he will be asked to step down.
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Night and Day from GB to Writing committee? Someone explain?
by thedepressedsoul in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
im sure by now most of you are familiar with anthony morris talk from this weekend.

im even seeing memes posted all over instagram from jw mocking it.. here is my question, why are the things written so different from how the gb members, like anthony morris are?

i know the gb dont actually write the stuff but i was under the impression that they come up with the spiritual light pass if off to the writing committee and they put it in the publications.
lambsbottom

Yep. What they said
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Can someone post a Branch visit recording?
by lambsbottom in
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2. beliefs
please!!!!.

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is it going to be on tv.jw.org?.
lambsbottom

PLEASE!!!!

is it going to be on tv.jw.org?
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US Zone visit
by obarac in
1. watchtower
2. bible
anyone will atend?.

how we can follow this meeting?.

anyone will inform us live?.
lambsbottom

Is there ever any big changes announced at zone visits in the past?
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The biggest sell off of Kingdom Halls in Britain :Update
by raymond frantz in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
the biggest sell off of kingdom halls in britain.

hi guys last night i posted this here but only a few notes as it was quite fresh and only announced lasdt night at the meeting.i have now updated article and included a couple of useful links about this matter .

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lambsbottom

@newdawnfades,

I can see how you think this may all be blow out of proportion. However, the WT wants their cake and wants to eat it too. they want each congregation to be a separate entity so as to avoid lawsuits. however, they also want to be able to tell each congregation exactly what to do (under the disguise of "they have the choice"). at the end of the day, the WT is telling individual JWs to do whatever is requested of them through the heiarchy. Eventually, governments are going to get their nose in this business that is going on and will wise up that it is in essense a type of ponzi scheme.

it would be different if each congregation was encouraged to be autonomous (like in Russell's day). then i could understand all this making complete sense.