Posts by EverApostate

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The true essence of the Bible—there is some problem with it?!

by venus in

in the famous aesop fable, we read about a fox who unsuccessfully tried to get some grapes, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: “i am sure they are sour.”.

someone made a second part to this story.

fox did some rehearsal in the night and came on to the scene next day, and jumped with difference and got the grapes from the vine tree, and he began to eat to his full capacity.

EverApostate

This is a great thread.

Once the ransom is paid the captive should be freed. Once a person finishes his Jail Sentence for the crime he committed, he is free of his crime - Means, he paid for it.

But in this bizarre concept of Christian Ransom, Jesus died for our sins but we still suffer with the consequences of sins.

ICor 15:42: So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised up in in corruption.

If that is so, then Lazarus was resurrected without Corruption (Without Sin) and a person without sin is perfect and should be living eternally. Why did he die AGAIN?

Hebrews 9: 27 and as it is reserved for men to die once for all time, but after this a judgment

As per above, death is only once for mankind. But why did the resurrected die again?

The Wages of Sin is death. Once a person received his wages, he had got what he deserved, for the services(Or Sin) he had done. So Sin gets nullified for the resurrected ones. Then why did the resurrected Zombies die again

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Advice on family waking up to TTATT

by Jules Saturn in

if you've been following my posts here, i am physically in and mentally out.

it's so hard because i wish that my family could wake up just as easily as i did.

the other day i had a conversation with a relative regarding whether they have come to terms with their own mortality and they replied that they try not to think about it too much but also said that it's possible that armageddon would even happen long after they are gone, which i thought was a very interesting thought.. maybe it's just me, but i feel like what made me wake up easily was that i've always had little doubts here and there but this was stuff like me being unable to grasp the concept of how one could be anointed and how would you know if you were.

EverApostate

I would recommend gauging your parents and whoever is still in. Gauging in the sense, just try to predict what would be the worst they would do if you became an apostate. Based on that, decide whether you should get along or at least be PIMO.

I did this in my life. My wife and mom are still JWs. Once I decided that they would not shun me, I wrote my letter of disassociation. My relationship with them continues as happy as Usual. No repercussions!

Very often I still try to plant seeds of doubt in them. It ends up in a heated argument for a few minutes and then love takes over..

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judgement and resurrection

by inbetween09 in

another inconsistency in wt theology:.

jw believe, when armegeddon comes, only jw will survive.

good news was preached in most areas and people could decide for or against god.

EverApostate

JWs are preaching freely in India for the past 97 years. Still hardly anyone knows about them or the Big J. I used to wonder about this very often, when I was in.

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Big events/developments which Bible failed to foresee!

by venus in

though bible made prophecies about “wars and rumors of war, famines and earthquakes, and persecution, hatred …” as signs of “last days” (mathew 24:6-11) which are neither specific nor extra-ordinary given the history of such events, it failed to foresee the positive development such as communication revolution (e.g.

tv, internet, mobile phone …) which is also favorable to preaching activity—the whole world can be preached to within a matter of hours.

[bible writers thought it would take at least 21 centuries for the whole world to be preached to.—mathew 24:14].

EverApostate

If Bible was really the word of God, at least the following should be contained in the Bible:

Germ theory - Reason behind how germs, bacteria and pathogens attack or benefit other living things.

Astronomy - Should have mentioned the simple science of this solar system, planets, stars and galaxies.

Physiology of human body- How the human body (At least humans) works and is made up of.

Rather, there is nothing beneficial for mankind about the following that are mentioned:

Earthquakes, Famines, Diseases are caused by sins, slaughter, blood shed, incest, talking snakes and donkeys, Solomons 600 wives and 300 concubines, Genealogy of Jesus(Contradiction here again) and other nomads, women inferior to men, a hypothetical ransom sacrifice…..

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Some Things Just Dont Add Up, How Did We Miss This???

by pale.emperor in

some things i just didnt notice at the time which now seem so obvious:.

the bible tells us that the end will come like a thief in the night, when we least expect it.

(matthew 24:44).

EverApostate

Adding my 2 cents

Lot was seduced by his daughters to produce offspring. Genesis 19: 30-38

Women, who cannot prove their virginity in their marriage bed, should be stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 22:13-21)

Lot offers his daughters to be raped by perverted men. (Genesis 19: 8 )

If a man rapes a woman he can give 50 shekels to the girl’s father and marry her. (Deuteronomy 22: 28)

Despite the above humiliation(And many more), women are the larger army in JWs and Christendom.

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"Only Witnesses demonstrate Christian Love"

by Jules Saturn in

so a couple of nights ago i was speaking with a relative and we began talking about the organization.

i had to asked her "why do you believe that this religion is the correct one?

" they stood quiet for a second but then said that they view and feel genuine christian love, a type of love that is spoken about in the bible.

EverApostate

For “still” Christians.

What is Christian Love anyway ? Jesus commanded his followers to hate their families and come after him. Luke 14:26 How do you formulate Christian love out of this ?

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Humourous reasons to go back

by usualusername1 in

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in my stand up comedy routine tonight i want to list humourous reasons why i shd go back to jws.. how about nobody throws parties like jws.. how about jws being at the cutting edge of fashion.. how about it being easier for men to get a date.. any ideas?.

paul.

EverApostate

If I want to stop thinking on my own, I can return to the truth and let my brain snooze off.

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Making Every Thought Captive To Christ(Washing the Brain Of Good Reasoning)

by Brokeback Watchtower in

not a very good idea to say the least.

when i read paul's words the more i see how delusional the guy was.

he was a genuine religious fanatic who contradicts jesus words on the sermon on the mount.. 2 corinthians 10:5 5we demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of god, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to christ.. delusional and in need of some serious psychological help.

EverApostate

Dimwick
So I ask "If that is really how you feel about God and his word - why are you here at all ?" Is it really just to complain about your lot in life ? Is it to try and destroy the faith of others
Because I believe that God exists and I love him. I believe the promises that he recorded in the scriptures.

Most of the members who write on this post have their loved ones still stuck to the cult. This is a great blog to get updated on what’s going on in that Cult, so that we could rescue our family members at some point. This is true in my case also.

BTW, You say you believe in Bible Promises. Can you cure the sick, as the Bible promises ? If you could do that, I can become a Christian again.

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The WatchTower conductor lied on stage

by Isambard Crater in

on sunday morning in the watchtower study, a "study" who was their for the 1st time put his hand up and said; "i have a question.

when the paragraph says give up everything, it doesn't really mean give up everything like the pearl merchant, does it, like be willing to lose my modest house, cheap car and other basics i own?

i mean, that sounds a bit much".. the watchtower conductor said in response; "no, it's just a parable and it doesn't mean give up everything.

EverApostate

Matthew 19:21

Jesus told him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow Me.”

Luke 14:26

If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters — yes, even his own life — he cannot be My disciple.

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The most absurd reason have you heard someone disfellowshipped for ?

by Chook in

someone said on forum they knew someone df for not going to assigned meeting in old days .

EverApostate

An elders baptized Daughter in India got married to a non JW. She and her father was dis fellowshipped due to this. Her father was accused of being present in the church premises during that NON-JW wedding.

This got me infuriated, even when I was an active JW. I wrote an email about this to the concerned elders in the congregation but with no response.