i believe that many witnesses are tired out or at least tiring out.
i know....... because i am tired out!.
imagine going to college for 20 years not knowing when college is finished.
When I was in, I was literally tired and irritated to look up John17:3 from the Bible, every time, when referenced from the podium
In my experience that was the most repetitive verse I had heard in that religion . Everyone knows by heart what that verse is and I would wonder why the heck we need to open the Bible and see it over and over and over...and over . If we don't look it up from the Bible, we are looked upon by suspicion . Oh holy heaven!!!
the change has begun.
my jw friends that came to my house months ago finally have figured out i am in no way going to become a jw (how it took them that long i have no idea).
now the change to them wanting to have nothing to do with me has begun.
Even if you had been a JW for decades and been disfellowshipped or disassociated yourself, you would be treated as you never Existed at all. Its a CULT, no wonder.
the purpose of this thread is to share some history with the community.
i am an active jw.
the reason i picked this forum is due to the openness and ease with which information can be accessed.
I have read many funny topics about Russell being a free mason or being instrumental in the skull and bones. Today you can pick your flavor of "conspiracy theories". Don't believe everything you read. Do the research yourself. This also includes what I type. Look into it yourself
HealthySkeptic,
In response to your above quote, Why is CT Russel's Tomb in Pennsylvania adorned by a Mini Pyramid ? I have seen this myself.
Your Jealous God Jehovah remained silent when his name was removed from his own holy book, until 1900 years ? This has been a question that has been disturbing me, even while I was a JW
Are you thoroughly convinced by your religions blood policies and its effects ?
Do you know of Watchtowers membership with the United Nations for 11 years ?
.....the truth was not the truth... ?
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I had these nagging questions, while still a devout JW.
Why is it that so many good people out there not accepting the teachings of JWs.
And then came the 607 BC investigation which started off everything, followed by the blood fractions, Organ transplants, vaccinations, Beth Sarim, Generations... truck load of Failed prophecies, self righteousness of the GB... UNO Secret tie and plastering when caught, Finally the truth has set me free.
i start this thread in response to a comment by a jw apologist called simonsays on another thread.
he claimed to have read all three volumes of vindication by rutherford (my sympathy if true).
he further implied that it didn't matter that old jw literature said wrong and stupid things, saying:.
Jehovah wants his name to be Vindicated but cant even preserve his (Exact) name in his own holy book, for 1875 years ???!!!
Moreover Vindicate means "clear (someone) of blame or suspicion". How can the Almighty, all powerful, all wise, all loving be blamed ? If Satan blamed the almighty, doesn't everyone know that Satan is the father of lies. With such a scenario why does anyone want to take Satan Seriously and why does Jah needs to Vindicate his name ?
What a load of Crap.
i think the watchtower is the only organization that can promise a product (everlasting life) and never deliver it.. what fools we've been to believe this nonsense..
All religions promise some sort of Bliss that is not attainable in this world but would make you eligible for that only when you join and serve their religion.
I admit I too had been a fool to believe this package of nonsense for 11 years but happy that finally realized for what it is.
i was withh a friend of mine who is a jw still and for whatever reason we started talking the bible.
i asked him about lazarus and how is that when he died he paid the price of sin, but then jesus resurrected him.
and i asked him "where is lazarus today?
waton .
Yeah, got your point. Even travelling at the speed of light it would have been several weeks/months/years to get the ransom and benefits approved from Heaven - to and fro - and hence all the resurrected died due to this delay
i was withh a friend of mine who is a jw still and for whatever reason we started talking the bible.
i asked him about lazarus and how is that when he died he paid the price of sin, but then jesus resurrected him.
and i asked him "where is lazarus today?
The resurrected saints as per Matthew 27:51-53 were post ransom beneficiaries and all should be alive today.Pr JWs cannot dodge them as pre - ransom
hello,i found this on the jw site.https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/go-to-heaven/it says:"jesus said: "no man has ascended into heaven.
(john 3:13) he thus showedthat good people who died before him, such as abraham, moses, job, and david,did not go to heaven.
(acts 2:29, 34).
Trying hard to research and determine which Religion's heaven is the best and planning ahead for my spot.
it struck me just how odd and weird it is that jws are told that if they do not preach, they are "bloodguilty" for failing to warn people of the upcoming destruction at armageddon.. hang on a minute now, hang on!.
why should a mere human be made to feel "bloodguilty" and "responsible" for "failing to warn someone" of gods wrath??.
these average people are not the ones who are about to unleash a genocidal massacre on 99% of humanity (including babies born to non-witnesses).
Why cant the myriads of angels go and preach / convert and save people ? People would believe without any doubts. Wouldn't they ?
