hello, i am in the beginning stages of a slow fade.
over the years i have become more and more dissatisfied with the beliefs, teachings, and organizational practices of the organization.
i no longer have faith in it.
Still believe in Jehovah and want a relationship with him
First you should prove to yourself that Jehovah Exists and Next prove that a relationship with him Exists. Neither is possible
This "relationship with God" is a Christian Fantasy. Nothing tangible or real. You should do some research and a lot of open minded thinking friend
just an odd thought i guess.
i saw a large snake in the back of my house the other day and it went on its merry way.
i just asked myself, what if the snake turned around and wanted to have a philosophical discussion on life, the universe or the origin of creation and then began to ask me questions?
Unlike Eve, I would have died of immediate cardiac arrest.
The guy who wrote this funny snake talking story, would not have imagined that billions in the future would take it seriously and beleive it .
He would laugh his head off, if he was alive today
i made a big mistake when signing up at this supposed website for jehovah's witnesses.
after reading some things on this site it has become apparent to me that this site is nothing put another pathetic site for apostates: people who betrayed jehovah, left the truth, and are so bitter about their experiene in the truth, and they are angry just like satan because they know they will very soon be dead at jehovah's hand!.
this website should be renamed something more fitting like "satan's playground" or a similar name that would get across the message of your site.. sincerely,.
@LaraK
So, you signed up without knowing about this site. And you started to read many topics for a while and then you lash out here, without spending your time on Zoom meetings and Virtual Field sevice.
Apostasy is growing in you. Welcome.
this is a topic that i find really interesting- how the bible, in particular, the new testament was compiled and how the jw organisation strives to negate, scoff at and diminish the influence of the catholic church in its development.. here is the official stance of the org: .
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/library/r1/lp-e/all-publications/watchtower/the-watchtower-1963/april-15.
'the roman catholic church claims responsibility for the decision as to which books should be included in the canon, and reference is made to the councils of hippo (a.d. 393) and carthage (a.d. 397), where catalogues of books were formulated.
If there is really a god, he should communicate to humans in a constant manner.
Or at least engrave his holy writings on a mountain, where people can’t tamper with it
And a god who wrote a book, wasn’t able to preserve his name in that. Absurdity at its finest.
my wife was reading this book and telling me how much she enjoyed it and looked up the quote below to share it with me.
i quite enjoyed it, so i'm sharing it with you, for what it's worth:strange, indeed, that you should not have suspected that your universe and its contents were only dreams, visions, fiction!
strange, because they are so frankly and hysterically insane—like all dreams: a god who could make good children as easily as bad, yet preferred to make bad ones; who could have made every one of them happy, yet never made a single happy one; who made them prize their bitter life, yet stingily cut it short; who gave his angels eternal happiness unearned, yet required his other children to earn it; who gave his angels painless lives, yet cursed his other children with biting miseries and maladies of mind and body; who mouths justice and invented hell—mouths mercy and invented hell—mouths golden rules, and forgiveness multiplied by seventy times seven, and invented hell; who mouths morals to other people and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, then tries to shuffle the responsibility for man's acts upon man, instead of honorably placing it where it belongs, upon himself; and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites a poor, abused slave to worship him.
who gave his angels painless lives, yet cursed his other children with biting miseries and maladies of mind and body
I had been thinking about this a lot. Assuming angels are real, angels have immense power and do not feel pain, not subject to poverty, disease, hunger, death. ANd its all those fleshly humans who suffer those.
Why this partiality
so if the bible is the inspired word of god and i don't believe it is by any stretch, how did adam when he was kicked out of the garden of eden know what a spinning sword was?
did adam invent swords?
more bible non sense garbage.
The flaming sword still exists and it revolves with astonishing speed somewhere in the middle east. Have faith.
i have noticed that the foolishness of jephthah's vow to sacrifice his daughter gets bandied around a lot as somehow approved of by god.
i never could understand how people could come to this conclusion.
if i wrote about something terrible that my son had done, that doesn't mean that i am for that thing.
@Sea Breeze
You say that Free will is the cause of all troubles.
God has Free will and yet he cannot sin. If God created man in his image, he should have created us likewise. How do you explain that
i have been thinking and was eventually wondering about the following:.
did the flood and all wars in the scriptures eventually bear the fruits that god hoped for?
is evil gone among humans?
Noahs Flood - Myth borrowed from more ancient myths
Wars - Most, if not all of the wars and genocides in the Bible are baseless and does not carry any historical proof. Mainly written for religious propaganda.
you will die.
i will die.
those who have gone before us, the great and the small, the powerful and the weak, have shared the common fate of dying.
Those who cannot accept the reality of their own inevitable death cling onto religion, whether an Egyptian Pharaoh, a Hindu, Buddhist, a Mormon, Islamist, Jew, Christian, or any other.
100% True
i was watching some of the may jw cult broadcast.
this push to be a movie studio and other things makes this cult seem like something else entirely from what i grew up in.
they really are trying to use anything they can to hook suckers into being cult members.
Cults whitewash themselves with flashy things. And that is how they hook up people. Inside its all rotten garbage.
