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Posts by Aroq
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4So, Christimas....
by Phaedra inlove the music.color, season's greetings, etc.
even have a desktop tree.. neighbors on the block are all lit up (since thanksgiving = awesome!).
the colors are gorgeous!.
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The mistranslation of John 8.58
by Wonderment injohn 8.58 is one of those scriptures which translators often mis-translate.. i am aware this text is defended with passion either way by its advocates.
many insist the "i am" rendering found in many versions is correct.
others defend the "i have been" or "i was" readings of other versions.
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Aroq
Have you considered this same thing in John 6:20? The direct translation of Jesus statement is " I AM no be fearing"
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What's up with the HEBREWS translation?
by TTWSYF inthis book states in verse 8 chapter 1 that the father calls jesus god.
the nwt is very different.
i wonder which one is the most accurate?.
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Aroq
Have you looked into the Greek words? How they are put together and from sources other than Biblehub?
http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/NTpdf/heb1.pdf
http://www.newjerusalem.org/Heb.1?from=Search%28Heb.1.8%29#8
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J.W. Women Should Stop Wearing Mascara!
by The Searcher inthe wtbts/ org dictates to its subservient followers what constitutes a bible truth/principle and what does not.
example: it-1 p. 319 birthday - ".....there is no indication in the scriptures that faithful worshipers of jehovah ever indulged in the pagan practice of annually celebrating birthdays.
the bible makes direct reference to only two birthday celebrations, those of pharaoh of egypt and herod antipas.
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No more afternoon naps!!! This is strictly forbidden. There was an afternoon nap recorded in the Bible and someone was beheaded. A good JW woman would never let her baby sleep during the day.
2 Samuel 4:5-7 "5 So the sons of Rimmon the Beerothite, Rechab and Baanah, departed and came to the house of Ish-bosheth in the heat of the day while he was taking his midday rest. 6They came to the middle of the house as if to get wheat, and they struck him in the belly; and Rechab and Baanah his brother escaped. 7 Now when they came into the house, as he was lying on his bed in his bedroom, they struck him and killed him and beheaded him. And they took his head and traveled by way of the Arabah all night."
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INSTRUCTIONS FOR OUR CHRISTIAN LIFE AND MINISTRY MEETING
by pixel in1. the life and ministry meeting will proceed as outlined in the life and ministry meeting workbookand according to the instructions that follow.. 3. treasures from gods word:.
the theme and an outline of two or three main points are provided in thelife and ministry meeting workbook.
this should be assigned to a qualified elder.. 6. concluding comments: 3 minutes or less.
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Aroq
"The student and assistant may be seated at a table or be standing."
What exactly is this? Is there another option?
" I would like to hop on one foot please?"
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New light!, says JW-Archive. The inspired word can have mistranslations, says Dec 2015 WT
by StarTrekAngel insorry, i know i posted this earlier but i believe the title did not gather enough attention.
i think is a topic worth discussing.. http://www.jw-archive.org/post/127866869178/new-light-the-inspired-word-of-god-can.
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Aroq
"It is noteworthy that when writers of the Christian Greek Scriptures quoted from the Hebrew Scriptures, they usually did so from the Septuagint"
Is this a factual statement? or is this one of the "obviously, or evidently's"
All this WT article states is that the Septuagint is the faulty text not the Hebrew scriptures. It is the reliance on the Septuagint that is the fault. My understanding was not that the Septuagint was written for its upstanding translation of the Hebrew scriptures, but rather for the Greek readers to be able to read the Hebrew scriptures.
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EXACTLY Why JW's Are NOT Christian
by Perry ina lot of people, ex-jws, believers and unbelievers alike, think that jw's are just a somewhat kooky brand of christianity.
is it possible to "try and follow jesus" and not be christian?
what exactly makes someone a christian?
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Aroq
to :fulltimestudent
It was a Pharisee named Gamaliel, who was a teacher of the Law. It was said because the theory was that if it were true it would continue, if it were not true it would fizzle out.
At what point does it become true or not? That is the real question. If it dies out after 200 years, was it true? Ever? For the movement to be true it must not fizzle out, not in 5 years, not in 1000 years, but forever remain.
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"Of course, I don't want to talk to you about that....."
by Phizzy inthe thread title refers to a number of times i have heard those words, or "substance thereof" lol, from jw's.. they are referring to my/our reasons for leaving.. it occurs to me that the correct response is not a "respectful", " i understand", but rather should be :.
" why ever not ?".
if they have "the truth" why should they not discuss and defend it ?.
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Aroq
I had a JW get super mad at me for asking him to defend some thing he said to me while he was in "service" that I didn't agree with. I asked him to read 1 peter 3:15, he refused so I read it to him. I got just about to the part of "yet do it with gentleness and respect" and he yelled it at me. LOL
I said you do know it is YOU who need to be the gentle and respectful one, as I am the one asking and you are the one defending?
Stormed off in a huff.
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Jesus The Perfect Reflection Of The Father?
by JW_Rogue inso this week's wt study was all about jesus and the miracles he performed.
according to the study this proves that god wants to heal mankind in the same way.
because as we all know jesus is a perfect reflection of his heavenly father.
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Where did Jesus get the Idea of an After-life in Heaven?
by John Aquila inthe ancient jews did not believe in an after-life as far as i can tell, correct me if i'm wrong.
the watchtower says yes.
they say all the prophets believed in a paradise earth..
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Aroq
It was in the Jewish culture as far as the Bible shows.
Job 19:5 “As for me, I know that my Redeemer lives,
And at the last He will take His stand on the earth.
26 “Even after my skin is destroyed,
Yet from my flesh I shall see God;"Psalm 49:13-15
13 This is the path of those who have foolish confidence;
yet after them people approve of their boasts.Selah
14 Like sheep they are appointed for Sheol;
death shall be their shepherd,
and the upright shall rule over them in the morning.
Their form shall be consumed in Sheol, with no place to dwell.
15 But God will ransom my soul from the power of Sheol,
for he will receive me.Daniel 12:2
2 And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.Isaiah 26:19
19 Your dead shall live; their bodies shall rise.
You who dwell in the dust, awake and sing for joy!
For your dew is a dew of light,
and the earth will give birth to the dead.
This is just a few scriptures that show resurrection from the OT and the Jewish belief.