I think it depends on your family as well as other factors. I faded and my mom and sib's treat me as though I'd been disfellowshiped.
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13opinions whats the best way to get out the door and not lose your fam DA or
by primitivegenius inpros and cons............. dissasociation......... disfellowshiping....... or just fadeing away.
i got family that i dont wanna lose but im not sure the best way to leave and the consequences.
raised in the "truth" so all my friends are jw with a few exceptions.
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Supreme Court Ruling Thursday on Grounds of Privacy
by ninecharger inthursday, the supreme court overturned the ruling in the 1986 georgia case bowers v hardwick.
in essence the court said that anti-sodomy laws are unconstitutional as they invade the citizen's right to sexual privacy.
how will the wt react?
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Emma
They're above the law, at least in their own minds. The use of "theocratic strategy" comes to mind.
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Sheparding calls
by undercover inremember earlier in the year when the elders were supposed to try to contact all inactive ones to try to get them active again?
what success rate did they have?
how many were da'd or df'd after these visits?
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Emma
When we faded, the elders from our hall told my mom and sister that they had tried to help us, had given us shepherding calls, and done everything they could to help us. The truth was that we did not have even one visit. I knew since I was the "weak" one, my mom would not believe me. After all, the elders are Jehovah's servants and would certainly not lie. I knew the elders were crooked, at least some of them, but this was beyond even what I'd anticipated.
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What religion are you now?
by Michalea ini've struggled with wanting to be 'something' mostly probably to fill that hole that was left and to try and belong somewhere, anywhere really.
so i've tried penecostal, presbyterian, united churches but they all seem fake.
i always compared everything to the jw's, and didn't even realize it.
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Emma
be wise,
I can understand your hesitancy, but UU's (this group, anyway) couldn't be further from wts. Individuals really practice their beliefs; there's a large pagan contingency who offer seasonal rituals to the whole congregation; Buddhist meditations at various times, etc. Believe me, I wasn't going to get hooked into another group that demanded my loyalty. You don't get "called on" if you miss, but if you're sick, you can call and ask for help; help comes quite willingly. It was a good group when I was newly single and had younger kids. I don't go as often any longer, and that's fine.
Emma
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Not sure if this is the right area
by Zoewrex inall - of course i'm new to this board (or any board) and have an 'issue'.
my father and step-mother are both jw's and i know i can't argue with them.
however they're important to me and yet after a visit, i feel as if they are chipping away at my own spirit.
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Emma
Zoewrex,
Try to not get discouraged when you can't reason with them. They've accepted the spoiled food from the wts and will likely accept that over logic and reason. It may boil down to your visits being conditional on not having religious discussions. It's gone from logic to emotion for them. They won't be required to shun you and your daughter, though, as if you'd been part of the religion.
Crisis of Conscience will be a big help to you. My thoughts are with you and your daughter.
Emma
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What religion are you now?
by Michalea ini've struggled with wanting to be 'something' mostly probably to fill that hole that was left and to try and belong somewhere, anywhere really.
so i've tried penecostal, presbyterian, united churches but they all seem fake.
i always compared everything to the jw's, and didn't even realize it.
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Emma
I go to the Unitarian Universalist church in our area. I went to an information meeting and asked if there was anything you "had" to believe in and the answer was "No." There are athiests, agnostica, Christians, pagans, Budists, etc. and everyone is welcome. I went because I was looking for a community. There is a lot of social action work on the part of the entire group. If there's one in your area you could give it a try; you won't be hassled to join. Feel free to send me a personal message is you have questions.
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As a loyal JW, what made you to start doubting the Watchtower ???
by run dont walk ini'm sure all of us were loyal at one time to the watchtower, believing in all of it.
(some of us probaly hated it from day one as well but, ).
what were some of the first things that happened or were said, that made you to start doubting it and beginning the loss of your loyalty to the organization ??????.
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Emma
Though I just let any doubts go by, I realized I was a "gonner" when I shed tears of sorrow at the baptism of one of my kids. I knew they had just put themselves under the critical, unloving, judgmental hand of the elders. Those with me assumed I was crying tears of joy. It still took me at least a couple of years to leave, fade out.
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Ray Franz.....LIAR?
by integ inone of my witness family members agreed to take a look at crisis of conscience, and after.
perusing the first couple of chapters, said that she thought it could be all made up.
agreed that the documents presented could be legitimate, but as far as franz's personal.
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Emma
I remember hearing something about Leo Greenlees "going off" to California for a "rest." I never questioned it. I'm interested in the answer to the "what happened?" question.
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The Letter from my Mom to my new wife.
by CraigSA inthis is the letter my mother wrote to my wife.
who does she think she is?dear leanne,thank you once more for the photos; we are building up quite a collection!i was so sorry to hear that the children are ill- this is a bad time of the year for sicknesses.
you must be quite worried, especially if kevin has pneumonia, which can be very nasty.
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Emma
She's "witnessing", counting her time.
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Emma
It's amazing that the program hasn't changed inthe seven or so years I've been away. And I used to be excited at getting the program. How do they keep people coming back for twenty years?