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  On Blaming God...

  by AGuest in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  may you all have peace!

  i find it funny... as in peculiar... that from adam until today... "we"... get our kicks blaming god.

  starting with adam, who said, "the woman... that you gave me... she... made me... eat," we have this penchant to look everywhere but in the mirror.

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  KennesonWrote And if there is no God who do you blame? Are all those millions of sufferers suddenly alleviated because there is no God?

  No but this is our world and we have to make the best of what we have got. And the best for other people who do NOT. The world is full of good leaders AND bad leaders and lazy people i.e (Jehovahs Witnesses) who sit on there backsides and say it is Gods will that children starve, etc. Someone else in this thread said we should "pull out the weeds blah blah blah" I don't see any witnesses abroad or in their own country helping people who are less fortunate than themselves, lending a hand, do you. Except of course to sell a book or two. That is if that person can read of course.
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  On Blaming God...

  by AGuest in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  may you all have peace!

  i find it funny... as in peculiar... that from adam until today... "we"... get our kicks blaming god.

  starting with adam, who said, "the woman... that you gave me... she... made me... eat," we have this penchant to look everywhere but in the mirror.

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  wonderer2003

  It would seem to ME... that if there IS a God... He can be... and/or NOT be... whatever HE wishes.

  So we Have to live by the wishes of a God who

  lets millions of babies be born deformed, mentally handicapped.

  Lets millions of people die from starvation.

  Lets millions of people die from (NOT SELF INFLICTED) disease

  Lets millions of people suffer physically every day

  Lets millions of people suffer mentally every day

  Life is not a bed of Roses, but some people are brainwashed and totally blind.

  There are many more of Gods wishes cursed on us.

  YES IF THERE IS A GOD I BLAME HIM...........
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  Bumpersticker

  by Maverick in

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  i was following this beat-up car with a young blonde driving recklessly normal and there was a bumpersticker on the undented part of her car's bumper which read," i want to be like barbie, that bitch has everything!

  " my first thought was," does that include the plastic boobs and empty head?

  " maverick

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  I didn't fight my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.

  He's not dead, he's electroencephalographically challenged.

  If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.

  If you lived in your car, you'd be home by now.

  I got a gun for my wife, best trade I ever made.

  So you're a feminist... Isn't that cute!

  Sometimes I wake up Grumpy; other times I let her sleep.

  Forget about World Peace - Visualize Using Your Turn Signal! *

  Be nice to your kids. They'll choose your nursing home.

  I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather...Not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car.

  Ever stop to think, and forget to start again?

  Help stamp out violins on TV!

  * Women who seek to be equal to men lack ambition.
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  Healing yourself in UV rays

  by Pleasuredome in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  isn't it nice to get a blast from the past from wts literature?

  here's two great quotes i found recently, about how we can benifit from sun bathing, and how mankind can't go into space.

  golden age, sept. 13, 1933, p. 777> -- "the earlier in the forenoon you take the sun bath, the greater will be the beneficial effect, because you get more of the ultra-violet rays, which are healing" .

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  wonderer2003

  it did for me.

  http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Dungeon/9591/
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  Noah Today

  by wonderer2003 in

  1. social
  2. humour

  noah's ark in today's society.... .

  the lord speaks to noah and says: "in one year, i am going to make it rain and cover the whole earth with water until all is destroyed.

  but i want you to save the righteous people and two of every kind of living thing on the earth.

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  Noah's Ark in Today's Society... The Lord speaks to Noah and says: "In one year, I am going to make it rain and cover the whole Earth with water until all is destroyed. But I want you to save the righteous people and two of every kind of living thing on the Earth. Therefore, I am commanding you to build an Ark."
  
  
  In a flash of lightning, God delivered the specifications for an Ark.
  
  Fearful and trembling, Noah took the plans and agreed to build the Ark.
  
  "Remember," said the Lord, "You must complete the Ark and bring everything aboard in one year."
  
  Exactly one year later, a fierce storm cloud formed and all the seas of the earth went into a tumult. The Lord saw Noah sitting in his front yard weeping.
  
  
  "Noah." He shouted, "Where is the Ark?"
  
  "Lord, please forgive me!" cried Noah. "I did my best but there were big problems. First, I had to get a permit for construction and your plans did not comply with the codes. I had to hire an engineering firm and redraw the plans.
  
  Then I got into a fight with OSHA over whether or not the Ark needed a fire sprinkler system and floatation devices.
  
  Then my neighbor objected, claiming I was violating zoning ordinances by building the Ark in my front yard, so I had to get a variance from the city planning commission.
  
  
  I had problems getting enough wood for the Ark, because there was a ban on cutting trees to protect the Spotted Owl. I finally convinced the U.S. Forest Service that I needed the wood to save the owls.
  
  However, the Fish and Wildlife Service won't let me catch any owls. So, no owls.
  
  The carpenters formed a union and went out on strike. I had to negotiate a settlement with the National Labor Union. Now I have 16 carpenters on the Ark, but still no owls.
  
  When I started rounding up the other animals, I got sued by an animal rights group. They objected to me only taking two of each kind aboard.
  
  
  Just when I got the suit dismissed, the EPA notified me that I could not complete the Ark without filing an environmental impact statement on your proposed flood. They didn't take very kindly to the idea that they had no jurisdiction over the conduct of the Creator of the universe.
  
  Then the Army Corps of Engineer demanded a map of the proposed new flood plain. I sent them a globe.
  
  Right now, I am trying to resolve a complaint filed with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission that I am practicing discrimination by not taking godless, unbelieving people aboard!
  
  The IRS has seized all my assets, claiming that I'm building the Ark in preparation to flee the country to avoid paying taxes.
  
  
  I just got a notice from the State that I owe some kind of user tax and failed to register the Ark as a 'recreational water craft.'
  
  Finally the ACLU got the courts to issue an injunction against further construction of the Ark, saying that since God is flooding the earth, it is a religious event and therefore unconstitutional.
  
  I really don't think I can finish the Ark for another 5 or 6 years!" Noah wailed.
  
  The sky began to clear, the sun began to shine and the seas began to calm. A rainbow arched across the sky.
  
  
  Noah looked up hopefully. "You mean you are not going to destroy the Earth, Lord?"
  
  "No," said the Lord sadly. "The government already has!"
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  they do accept blood after all

  by wonderer2003 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thought this might interest some of you, sorry me if this page has already been talked about, but i just found it and thought it very interesting....

  http://www.stnicholasla.com/blood.htm found here.

  the resulting decisions based on this arbitrary classification are breathtaking examples of inconsistency.

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  Hi Again All

  Thought this might interest some of you, sorry me if this page has already been talked about, but i just found it and thought it very interesting....

  http://www.stnicholasla.com/blood.htm found here

  The resulting decisions based on this arbitrary classification are breathtaking examples of inconsistency. For example, plasma, which makes up 55% of blood volume, may not be used by Witnesses since it is a “major component” of blood. Yet plasma is actually made up of 93% simple water! The remaining 7% consists mostly of the components albumin, globulins, fibrinogen, and coagulation factors. The Society lists each of these components, however, as being acceptable for medical use. In other words, the Witness is allowed each of the basic components of plasma, but is not allowed all the components together mixed with a lot of water!

  Another example of a strange inconsistency involves the prohibition of leukocytes, or “white blood cells.” Even though they are commonly referred to as “blood” cells, in reality only 2-3% of the body’s leukocytes exist inside the blood system. (In fact, leukocytes constitute only 1/10 of 1% of the blood.) The rest are spread throughout the body’s tissues as part of the immune system.

  The inconsistency is this: Witnesses have been allowed to accept organ transplants since 1980, yet a Witness is likely to receive far more leukocytes in an organ transplant than if he were to receive a whole blood transfusion! Moreover, human breast milk contains five to twelve times more leukocytes than blood. Yet the Watchtower Society has so far not forbidden breast feeding to Witness mothers.
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  eating meat

  by wonderer2003 in

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  i am a newbie here and have just found this site after a some jw sisters came a visiting to my door.. i was listening intently to what they were saying, and asked a question about cruelty in this world, the subject got around to animals and they said that animals did not eat each other until after the flood.. and animals did not turn against man until they started to be cruel to them, which was again after the flood.

  this seems to me to be so ludicrous, please can you tell me if anyone has heard of this before?

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  Some great responses here. At least now if they come a Knocking again I will have a few things to say to their ludicrous statements

  Thanks
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  Militant Apostates

  by Rainmakerone in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm wondering if there are many truly militant apostates out there....... some real god hating watchtower bashing hard guys....i just read the "bill bowen update" thread and feel that all opposition is good opposition, and knowing that the wt society can see any posts we make, also feel its a shame they can see squabbles among their enemies.

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  *** Watchtower 1980 June 15 p.8 What It Takes to Keep Separate from the World ***

  We hate them [ed: former members], not in the sense of wanting to do them harm or wishing them harm but in the sense of avoiding them as we would poison or a poisonous snake , for they can poison us spiritually.

  Is this not what JW's think of ex members, What are they so afraid of ???
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  A Common Mistake

  by DJ in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as a jw, i was taught the wrong idea of what the trinity is.

  the concept of the trinity does not teach that the father is the son.

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  Jesus was an angel who became a man (Watchtower, 5/15/63, p 307). He was just a man, however -- not God in the flesh

  Hi can i ask dj if this is still the way of there teachings.

  Jesus Christ was more than a "good man." He is God.
  Philippians 2:6
  Hebrews 1:8

  there are many references like this in the bible ,if you would like more I will suggest them.

  Im sorry i dont have a religion but try to look into some maybe I am looking for the Truth.
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  eating meat

  by wonderer2003 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

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  i am a newbie here and have just found this site after a some jw sisters came a visiting to my door.. i was listening intently to what they were saying, and asked a question about cruelty in this world, the subject got around to animals and they said that animals did not eat each other until after the flood.. and animals did not turn against man until they started to be cruel to them, which was again after the flood.

  this seems to me to be so ludicrous, please can you tell me if anyone has heard of this before?

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  Thankyou both for your for replying. They did say that the animals did eat meat but only from animals that were were already dead. So I was just thinking, were there not - and is there not - obvious animals that were built to kill? For instance the sabre toothed tiger would probably find it difficult to eat food with such long teeth, so they presumably were used to kill there prey. Just a thought.