Shows again how sick they are, because IMHO someone that is stroking the genitals of a baby, with any other purpose than to clean before putting on a new diaper, is a pedophile... I have never EVER heard of this ridiculous way to calm or quiet a baby!!! Completely insane!
Bruja-del-Sol
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Jehovah Witness Yahoo answers Nazi's at it again
by Watchtower-Free ini just had the question below reported by jws and removed for "misuse of question format" .. .
it received a bunch of outraged reponses from people critical of the jws and i'm sure shocked.
a few jws also .. .
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This made my day...
by LivingTheDream ini have been collecting and reading ex-jw books these last few years.
i love 'em all, just out of pure solidarity.. i went to order the fourth edition updated version of crisis of consciense for my collection (best book ever!
) and when amazon.com listed the best sellers of jehovah's witness books, this is what came up (see below).. needless to say, it tickled me pink.... brock talon .
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Bruja-del-Sol
Brock, I've been reading ALL your Bethel-stories today here on JWN... It's such an eye opener. Thanks to Ray Franz I already knew that the whole 'Bethel'-thing is a fairytale and nothing like what most JW's think it is, but all the things you've shared here...wow! Thank you for all the effort you've put into writing it down and I'm definitely going to buy your book!
Your stories reminded me of a brother who also lived at Bethel Brooklyn. He came on holiday to the Netherlands once, in april 1986. I can recall the exact month, since I was just baptized that year in february and auxiliary pioneering for the first time... and I had a boyfriend in our congregation who was so terribly jealous, because I had a nice chat with that brother from America... He invited me to visit Bethel Brooklyn and I really wanted to and the boyfriend nearly freaked out only by the thought of me going to America!
I never visited Bethel, not in Holland, not in Amerika. And reading your stories and the experiences of others here on JWN I'm actually glad I never did.
Thanks again for sharing your experiences.
add: before you ask: I got rid of the boyfriend within two weeks after that...
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A Purpose
by DeWandelaar in"everything in life has a purpose" is something a lot of (religious) people tend to say.
i used to believe that too... but i have always been wandering about animals, bacteria and everthing around us.
what purpose is there?
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Bruja-del-Sol
Ever thought of the purpose of mosquitoes, other than bird food??? Here we have them the size of bees (ok, a little smaller, but they're a lot bigger than in Holland) and they always seem to be after me.... I don't see no purpose, they're just plain annoying!
So to answer your question: I've got no idea. With black flies I can imagine their use, since they clean up e.g. dead animals, they're good for composting, but day flies? And were the flies created? I'm not so sure anymore how everything on this planet came to existence. God? Aliens? Evolution? I've stopped thinking about it, just accepted all as 'it exists, we're here, so let's make the most of it while we're here'.
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Fifty Years Ago-The Beatles Enter My Life
by Band on the Run inthe beatles were on ed sullivan for the first time fifty years ago.
it blows my mind.
i gave them three months and i was a fan before they appeared.
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Bruja-del-Sol
When I was about six I discovered the Beatles... must have been somewhere in 1974/1975. My dad had the 'Beatles for sale' and the red and blue double albums and I just loved them! I wanted to understand what they were singing, so my dad translated a lot of songs for me (that's actually when and why I started learning English! I've learned it initially from the Beatles lyrics). I can remember very well when my dad told me what 'Norwegian wood' was about, and I thought it was the funniest song I had ever heard
Later when I was thirteen my parents went to London for a weekend and when they returned they brought me the Complete Beatles-book with all their (over 212 official) songs for piano/guitar. After that I've been playing so many Beatles' songs... for hours on end I would be playing my guitar and singing their songs. I still do every now and then, those are my 'Beatles days' (when hubby knows I'm not available for anything... just playing til my fingers bleed, so to speak, haha).
I only learned who the individual Beatles were when I was nine, in 1978, when Wings had a huge hit with 'Mull of Kintyre'. I recorded it and played it over and over again and one time the videoclip was on Toppop (a famous Top40 show in Holland, long gone but everybody watched it back in those days, even my JW parents, although my dad used to complain about hair and the way the artists dressed. By the time KISS had a hit with 'I was made for loving you' it was a forbidding program for us kids), and my dad said it was such a pity the Beatles had split up... and I didn't understand why he said that. So I asked him and he told me: "don't you know? That man on the screen is Paul McCartney, he was one of the Beatles"... I didn't now up until then, but from that moment I was a huge Paul McCartney fan hahaha. My dad also told me the names of the other Beatles, but they weren't half as interesting to me as Paul McCartney.
In 2003 I've finally had the chance to see Sir Paul live in Arnhem, Holland, and in 2009 when he came back to Arnhem I was there too. When the cd-boxes with all the cd's of the Beatles were released in 2009 I bought both the stereo and the mono set. Now I'm saving to buy the vinyl box as well... (I feel soooo stupid that I've thrown everything away when I was seventeen!!! I had scrapbooks, records, singles, cassettes, a special double album with all the recordings that were available at that time from their Hamburg-days... such a loss The only thing I've kept was a book called 'Beatles dagboek' (means: Beatles diary), written by the founder of the first official Dutch Beatles fanclub, Har van Fulpen. I still have it and it shows on what date they did what, or which song was recorded, where did they play or give an interview, things like that... a lovely book to go through and read about my all time favorite band)
For me, growing up as a JW child, the Beatles helped me get through the hardest parts of my life. Their songs were sometimes spot on in relation to the things I was going through and they've been a great influence and inspiration for me on a musical level.
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Watching Amish Shunned on PBS...very deja vu if you are/were a JW!
by tenyearsafter inthis is a very interesting documentary...the similarities are so close, you could substitute jw for amish!
anyone else watching this?.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/introduction/shunned-introduction/.
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Bruja-del-Sol
Last year I've seen the movie 'The Shunning', based on a novel about the Amish, written by Beverly Lewis. A very touching story that shows a lot of similarities to the JW's.
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Anyone else having a bad few weeks??
by quellycatface ini seem to have a really crap couple of months with stuff going wrong.
people being nasty to me.
i saw a neighbour of mine today (who i fell out with 18 months ago), to whom i've since apologised for losing my temper with, but today, when i smiled at her, she looked at me daggers!!!
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Bruja-del-Sol
DoC, this reminds me of the Sick note by the Dubliners. Hopefully it will give all of you a good laugh...
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If You Got a Call or Visit From The Elders How Would You Deal With Them?
by minimus injust curious..
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Bruja-del-Sol
Haha TableForOne, can't you see what an unhappy bunch of apostates we are here? We're so miserable, life's awful when you're free to think your own thoughts!
Anyway, welcome from me too
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Anyone else having a bad few weeks??
by quellycatface ini seem to have a really crap couple of months with stuff going wrong.
people being nasty to me.
i saw a neighbour of mine today (who i fell out with 18 months ago), to whom i've since apologised for losing my temper with, but today, when i smiled at her, she looked at me daggers!!!
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Bruja-del-Sol
Oh dear, here's a hug for you first
Maybe your neighbour wasn't angry with you, maybe she was thinking of something that bothered HER that had nothing to do with you, but made her face look sulky...
You know, we are not able to change other people, only ourselves. And our emotions are triggered by our thoughts, so change your thoughts to feel better! (I know, easier said than done)... but that's the whole trick. Think of how you feel when the sun shines and you smell that spring is on it's way back... most people get a happy feeling from that, even if it's just a thought. So help yourself by finding happy (happier) thoughts and your emotions will follow by becoming happier.
And if someone does say or do something that upsets us, remind yourself of the fact that their behaviour says nothing about you, it just says all about THEM and their state of mind! Keep their attitude with them, don't 'adopt' is as if it has something to do with you, because it really doesn't!
If you have skype you may add me, just send a PM to exchange skype names. I'm online very often (it's my lifeline to my children in Holland). You don't have to feel nor be alone.
Hugs again,
Bruja
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Interview with an apostate: Bruja-del-Sol
by Bruja-del-Sol intell us a little about yourself and your family.. im a 45 year old female.
married age 18 to another jw (pos son), became the mother of two wonderful children, girl and boy (now adults), divorced and dfd when i was 33 years old and since 2008 married to my first love who used to be my classmate when i was 16 (but got kicked out of my life by my dad b/c he wasnt a jw).. were you a born in or a convert?.
my grandmother from fathers side, my parents, 2 of my 3 sisters and their husbands (one is an elder) and kids, my brother and his wife and children, and the wifes of my two uncles are all still jw (uncles both have faded, but their cult personas are still intact, unfortunately).
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Bruja-del-Sol
OH and I can't resist, have to post this song as well... hahaha, this has been my favorite song the first year after I got DF'd
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Interview with an apostate: Bruja-del-Sol
by Bruja-del-Sol intell us a little about yourself and your family.. im a 45 year old female.
married age 18 to another jw (pos son), became the mother of two wonderful children, girl and boy (now adults), divorced and dfd when i was 33 years old and since 2008 married to my first love who used to be my classmate when i was 16 (but got kicked out of my life by my dad b/c he wasnt a jw).. were you a born in or a convert?.
my grandmother from fathers side, my parents, 2 of my 3 sisters and their husbands (one is an elder) and kids, my brother and his wife and children, and the wifes of my two uncles are all still jw (uncles both have faded, but their cult personas are still intact, unfortunately).
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Bruja-del-Sol
Thank you all so very much for your responses!
@Gorby: yup, another one to join the Dutch forces on JWN
@Xanthippe: thank you in return, nice of you to write a reaction.
@DeWandelaar: thanks for the compliment. I had some education: primary school (lagere school) and secundary school (HAVO). But the foundation for my English came from the Beatles... Age 6 I started to really love their music and my father translated a lot of their songs for me, so that I knew what they sang. Isn't it great, having learned a language from such 'demonic' music?
@Gypsy Sam: thank you, glad you liked it. And yes, my life in Spain is sometimes very idyllic (at the moment it's just plain cold and wet.... but this evening just before sunset we saw the most beautiful huge and very wide rainbow... Nature at its best!)
@TheOldHippie: I'm not exactly sure what you mean? Any specific part of my story?
@Punkofnice: thank you, that's exactly why I've written it, since I enjoy the stories of others very much also.@Humbled: I can understand you so well. I've sent my grandmother a letter a few years ago. She did write me back, even sent a picture of herself (taken on the District Convention... of all places!), to tell me she couldn't meet me because of her conscience. Jehovah would disapprove... So sad, since I asked her if we could hug each other just once, for the last time, just being grandmother and granddaughter... But she couldn't. And even though it hurt, I could understand where she came from. So I haven't bothered her again. She'll be 90 this year and I fear the day that she'll die, since I still don't know what to do if her funeral day arrives... I can imagine it must feel somewhat the same for you and that old sister, to know she'll die one day, and not being able to ever hug her again. I'm so glad I had that chance with that old sister I took care of, I had no idea at the time that I would never get such a chance with my own grandmother.
@Innerpeace: So glad for you that you've found your soulmate. Is he the person you'd lost as a young girl? The Dixie Chicks recorded a song about this topic, called 'A home'. Good that you and I (and so many others, like LisaRose) eventually managed to build that home after all:
A Home